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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan


In Roman iconography, it was often depicted being carried in the left hand of Mercury, the messenger of the gods, guide of the dead and protector of merchants, shepherds, gamblers, liars, and thieves.[3]


I do not need to do much research to understand that a great deal of medicine is being manipulated and having snakes as a representation of that manipulation is full of symbolism. The fact they started this in ancient times just means that the wool has been pulled over our eyes for that much longer.

Healing and "madicine" are very different.


Its about healing and medicine, sure. That was what Hermes was known for, among other things.

Its about other things as well. For example, the snakes represent the duad or yin and yang. Here is an image I made for a member on ATS awhile back:



The snakes represent the duad, or male and female. Self and other. Full and absent.
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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

[citation needed]



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: Agartha

No, I believe what you say Agartha, no need for a source from you even
as far as I'm concerned. I know you're ABOVE any fabrications, I know
you're ABOVE TOP SECRET.COM baby. We do have that in common.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 12:22 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Woe! Nice post from the furry texan.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: Agartha

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Agartha

Ok now we know that isn't the real symbol.

It's just the one being used everywhere.


Just because the symbol is used by many organizations, it doesn't mean it's the correct one for medicine.

There is a difference between the symbols with 1 or 2 snake.
The Caduceus with 1 snake is the 'wand of magic' used mostly by commercial or military organizations.
The real one for medicine is the Asclepius, with 1 snake.

Here is a good explanation: drblayney.com...



symbolically it is negligible. if 2 snakes meant evil then what is one snake.. half evil? if 2 snakes meant power what is one snake? half power? no it goes much deeper than that.

moses staff he threw on the ground, as well as the serpent on the rod refered to in the wilderness is the same as kundalini, ascelcius, winged disc, caduceus. again the symbol if it is to be accurate, must embody the message of the paradox of life whilst using symbolic images within it that reference what it is referring to. symbols within symbols.

it makes no difference whether 1 snake or 2 in the symbol. in the dual intertwining serpents image the kundalini is fully represented in its most literal form as it does feel like 2 snakes/chords wobbling around and up the spine from the root chakra when activated. but the truth is.. it is just one snake that wobless and feels like 2 because of its dualist nature. in the dual serpent it is centred by the staff signifying that all is one.

so if u already know this, you dont need to see both serpents to know what message is being conveyed. 1 serpent is enough. once u understand the serpent symbolism. because serpents themselves are "dual natured/faced". so one who knows well the symbolism will see the 2 as the same. one pictographically accurate. the other simplified because both serpents arent needed to convey the message if u already know what the serpent symbolises.

if u look it up im sure you will find that the serpent symbolizes wisdom, potent spirituality, duality, kundalini and thus can be used to portray any one or all of the above. the paradox is addressed in the duality. the staff unifies the duality seamlessly, the sun disc symbolizes the 7th chakra blossoming and the wings symbolize the vehicle of spirit that is attained to traverse heavenly realms.

so yeah the symbol was uhhh... 'borrowed' from the ancients and used in medicine around the world because.. well.. medicine and healing began with the shamans and chi manipulators. so the labcoats we have today are basically, shadows of true healing arts of ancient times. hey may have figured out how to extract and divulge the active healing ingredient in a shaman reccommended list of plants. but they honestly dont know much about holistic treatment. heal the spirit and the body heals with it. but todays medical profession prides itself on being a science, which specializes and targets certain areas of the body specifically to heal or sometimes, pretend to heal. but because of the extraction process to create the tablet, an imbalance is formed in the body and well basically, the pills have side effects and keep getting u sick over and over your whole life. so u go to doc to get one thing fixed, he fixes it sort of but breaks something else in the process... so now uve got to go back to him again because ur suffering from some new ailment. caused by the medicine to fix the previous ailment.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Agartha

No, I believe what you say Agartha, no need for a source from you even
as far as I'm concerned. I know you're ABOVE any fabrications, I know
you're ABOVE TOP SECRET.COM baby. We do have that in common.


I am going to admit that I am not sure if you are being nice, sarcastic or simply taking the mickey out of me!



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: John333

I agree about your last paragraph, but you can't blame only doctors, patients can be really bad too! Sometimes there is no choice but to take prescribed meds, I know that, but I believe modern people are lazy and they prefer to get a pill instead of working hard.... an example I see all the time: a middle age person who is overweight and smokes has very high cholesterol (cigarettes have been proven to reduce good cholesterol). When they are told their high cholesterol could give them a life threatening condition, instead of changing their lifestyle (get active, stop smoking, eat healthily) they prefer to continue as they are and to take statins instead. Statins do help reduce cholesterol but one of their common side effects is muscular pain. So then they go to the doctor to get something for the pain, and now they are on statins, anti-inflammatory drugs and painkillers. Anti-inflammatory drugs raise blood pressure, so the next step is to also take hypertension drugs..... and the vicious circle goes on and on.

Regarding the Kundalini and the rest, I can't comment as I haven't read enough about it to voice my own opinion.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 02:14 PM
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In my understanding; the snakes are biological representations of spiraling DNA around the spine of the human being, the top sphere represents self god head/enlightened/heights of consciousness. ..

Perfected dna, within a being that has reached spiritual discovery of self, heightened consciousness, is a perfected being.

The mockery within the medical industry, especially in North American continent .... is that the medicine and tools used to resolve ailment, obstructs the dna as you are what you intake, cause and effect.

It's counterproductive to feed the body chemicals, it degrades the purity and strength of the indivduals DNA.
Even if it were to aide in a disease, patients never get cured, always left woth another issue biologically.

Earth offers all the cures within its sources and elements, combine with the mind of the indivdual consciousness which is experiencing degrading within its biology, any bio-negative affects, can be handled naturally

Not everything is mystical and nonsense. Just misunderstood.

ETA ~ the ancients always used animals to represent what they couldn't express into words. Dna looks serpentine like, as it spirals. Its a reference to kundalini which is a dormant energy that is neutral unless awoken and harnessed.

I have awakened kundalini, I have face to face with the serpent. . . Every culture near so, has serpent worship, which is the internal energy of the human.

Worshipping self.

It's more complex and meaningful then "two snakes around a pole". One with such perception or poor misinterpretation, would of failed in understanding self.

ETA 2 ~ when kundalini is awoken, it courses up and down within the body, around the spine. Starts dormant in the lower part of the body, and courses around the spine, from bottom to tip, top to bottom, bottom to top.

Note; this is very real whether you have awoken kundalini or not, it exists and only one with lack of experience can dismiss it.


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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: John333

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: John333
satan was spirit in paradise. just like the serpent.. as obviously all in the garden were perfect beings.. including adam and eve at the time before the fall.

here on earth we experience satan not as spirit ut as carnal desire. no not because uve never seen satan means hes not real or in spirit form. the ego desires of the flesh are satan's manifestation.. in man. the spiritual desires which we tend to neglect in favour of material satisfaction and comfort. so no you cannot invoke, evoke or summon satan. he is you. the flesh part of you. your spirit, is God's sinless spirit which he has imparted to you. we're touching the paradox. its metaphors, symbolism. its fiction but not fiction. the personified form of materialistic drive is satan. it is inherent in all living things who have yet to get in touch with their higher spiritual identity and its moral behaviour. take away the spirit from the body and u are left symbolically with pure satan. a robot, without a conscience, just its programming to keep it going. survive, eat, have sex, fight for territory to minimize resistance from accessing your food source to keep survivng.. for no reason at all.

your task here... prevent the desires of the flesh from corrupting your spirit. allow the spirit to be driver and not the body. the body/flesh is gonna probably get you comforts, but it cannot give you eternal life in an eternal state in the heavenly realms. so.. we choose. dont take the bible stories too literally. they are what i call fictional truths. truths encoded in works of fiction with history incorporated to convey a message. a moral of the story. the message is more important than the story. so you need to get the message. most important thing.

look to the sumerian story. the evil dragon was destroyed and its body used to create the flesh of man. genesis was formed from those sumerian stories. the message was extracted and restructured into a new story.. genesis. same message.. just a different way of telling it.


Why would you assume that Sumerian creation myth preceded Canaanite (Proto-Hebrew) creation? Where is your evidence?

Perhaps Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian myth copied from an earlier Canaanite source? There were, most definitely, Canaanite tribes in existence before the Sumerian empire. The Sumerian culture was of Canaanite origin.



i didnt claim that sumerian stories preceded canaanite stories. but lets put it this way. if there was a flood that killed everyone except one family, then the stories we have would have come from that one family. back then as far as i can recall, there was no written language. all was conveyed orally for a long time. so maybe you can link me to some of these canaanite stories and their claimed source preceding sumeria? the first civilization with writing?


Both Sumerian& Canaanite languages were branches of a proposed proto-semitc language.

There are some Canaanite snake spells that purportedly have been dated to between 3000 and 2400 BC, which potentially makes them older than the earliest Sumerian writings.

Proto-Canaanite / First Tongue / Egyptian - Viewzone


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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: Elementalist


yes well said on both accounts above. the dual serpent can also be used to symbolize dna as this is also a dual intertwined spiral that is linked and programmed by the spirit. it shares that characteristic with the kundalini and the spine. both are dual natured but form ONE, they both also have healing power over the body.

for this reason both go hand in hand and as you dig deeper you will see the true connection.... kundalini is a healing power and once activated begins to transform the body at a genetic level. balancing out imperfections. it is the master of genetic manipulation. it is the force of nature within all living things and also drives transformations in evolution across all species. when you wake up one morning and all the blue finches have yellow dabs on them.. kundalini did that. science discovers and labels it a new variant of the species having no idea where it came from all of a sudden. all changes that occur along the evolutionary process is guided and manipulated from behind the scenes by kundalini. the mother force of nature. an attribute of the Holy Spirit manifest.

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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: John333

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: John333
satan was spirit in paradise. just like the serpent.. as obviously all in the garden were perfect beings.. including adam and eve at the time before the fall.

here on earth we experience satan not as spirit ut as carnal desire. no not because uve never seen satan means hes not real or in spirit form. the ego desires of the flesh are satan's manifestation.. in man. the spiritual desires which we tend to neglect in favour of material satisfaction and comfort. so no you cannot invoke, evoke or summon satan. he is you. the flesh part of you. your spirit, is God's sinless spirit which he has imparted to you. we're touching the paradox. its metaphors, symbolism. its fiction but not fiction. the personified form of materialistic drive is satan. it is inherent in all living things who have yet to get in touch with their higher spiritual identity and its moral behaviour. take away the spirit from the body and u are left symbolically with pure satan. a robot, without a conscience, just its programming to keep it going. survive, eat, have sex, fight for territory to minimize resistance from accessing your food source to keep survivng.. for no reason at all.

your task here... prevent the desires of the flesh from corrupting your spirit. allow the spirit to be driver and not the body. the body/flesh is gonna probably get you comforts, but it cannot give you eternal life in an eternal state in the heavenly realms. so.. we choose. dont take the bible stories too literally. they are what i call fictional truths. truths encoded in works of fiction with history incorporated to convey a message. a moral of the story. the message is more important than the story. so you need to get the message. most important thing.

look to the sumerian story. the evil dragon was destroyed and its body used to create the flesh of man. genesis was formed from those sumerian stories. the message was extracted and restructured into a new story.. genesis. same message.. just a different way of telling it.


Why would you assume that Sumerian creation myth preceded Canaanite (Proto-Hebrew) creation? Where is your evidence?

Perhaps Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian myth copied from an earlier Canaanite source? There were, most definitely, Canaanite tribes in existence before the Sumerian empire. The Sumerian culture was of Canaanite origin.



i didnt claim that sumerian stories preceded canaanite stories. but lets put it this way. if there was a flood that killed everyone except one family, then the stories we have would have come from that one family. back then as far as i can recall, there was no written language. all was conveyed orally for a long time. so maybe you can link me to some of these canaanite stories and their claimed source preceding sumeria? the first civilization with writing?


Both Sumerian& Canaanite languages were branches of a proposed proto-semitc language.

There are some Canaanite snake spells that purportedly have been dated to between 3000 and 2400 BC, which potentially makes them older than the earliest Sumerian writings.

Proto-Canaanite / First Tongue / Egyptian - Viewzone



well 3000bc isnt that far back. sumeria is actually dated to be around 3500bc. so we kind of see what i was saying. we would have no written record of canaanite pre-flood era because writing began with sumeria. so we would have to get the stone tablets from the sumerian kings who previously before learning writing and mathematics had the stories passed on to them by their ancestors orally from generation to generation.

id say though u dont want to waste time with spells of any kind. and especially not from the canaanite era. unless, they came from seth and his descendents. everyone else was doing nonesense that was not in tune with the will of nature and the universe.. God.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: John333

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: John333

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: John333
satan was spirit in paradise. just like the serpent.. as obviously all in the garden were perfect beings.. including adam and eve at the time before the fall.

here on earth we experience satan not as spirit ut as carnal desire. no not because uve never seen satan means hes not real or in spirit form. the ego desires of the flesh are satan's manifestation.. in man. the spiritual desires which we tend to neglect in favour of material satisfaction and comfort. so no you cannot invoke, evoke or summon satan. he is you. the flesh part of you. your spirit, is God's sinless spirit which he has imparted to you. we're touching the paradox. its metaphors, symbolism. its fiction but not fiction. the personified form of materialistic drive is satan. it is inherent in all living things who have yet to get in touch with their higher spiritual identity and its moral behaviour. take away the spirit from the body and u are left symbolically with pure satan. a robot, without a conscience, just its programming to keep it going. survive, eat, have sex, fight for territory to minimize resistance from accessing your food source to keep survivng.. for no reason at all.

your task here... prevent the desires of the flesh from corrupting your spirit. allow the spirit to be driver and not the body. the body/flesh is gonna probably get you comforts, but it cannot give you eternal life in an eternal state in the heavenly realms. so.. we choose. dont take the bible stories too literally. they are what i call fictional truths. truths encoded in works of fiction with history incorporated to convey a message. a moral of the story. the message is more important than the story. so you need to get the message. most important thing.

look to the sumerian story. the evil dragon was destroyed and its body used to create the flesh of man. genesis was formed from those sumerian stories. the message was extracted and restructured into a new story.. genesis. same message.. just a different way of telling it.


Why would you assume that Sumerian creation myth preceded Canaanite (Proto-Hebrew) creation? Where is your evidence?

Perhaps Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian myth copied from an earlier Canaanite source? There were, most definitely, Canaanite tribes in existence before the Sumerian empire. The Sumerian culture was of Canaanite origin.



i didnt claim that sumerian stories preceded canaanite stories. but lets put it this way. if there was a flood that killed everyone except one family, then the stories we have would have come from that one family. back then as far as i can recall, there was no written language. all was conveyed orally for a long time. so maybe you can link me to some of these canaanite stories and their claimed source preceding sumeria? the first civilization with writing?


Both Sumerian& Canaanite languages were branches of a proposed proto-semitc language.

There are some Canaanite snake spells that purportedly have been dated to between 3000 and 2400 BC, which potentially makes them older than the earliest Sumerian writings.

Proto-Canaanite / First Tongue / Egyptian - Viewzone



well 3000bc isnt that far back. sumeria is actually dated to be around 3500bc. so we kind of see what i was saying. we would have no written record of canaanite pre-flood era because writing began with sumeria. so we would have to get the stone tablets from the sumerian kings who previously before learning writing and mathematics had the stories passed on to them by their ancestors orally from generation to generation.

id say though u dont want to waste time with spells of any kind. and especially not from the canaanite era. unless, they came from seth and his descendents. everyone else was doing nonesense that was not in tune with the will of nature and the universe.. God.


You have made two assumptions here, one that Sumerian culture had writing from 'day one' and the other that there were not written languages previous to it.

Neither assumption is correct.

Although the Canaanite writings were dated from 3000 BC, the fact that they had been translated into Egyptian hieroglyph indicates that they had been in existence sufficiently early enough to have been in common use and to have traveled from Canaan to Egypt.

The structure of Genesis is that of seven, shorter, personal, eye-witness accounts and histories, assembled into a single document.

In the Genesis accounts, only supernatural entities do supernatural things. In the Sumerian accounts, no such distinction is made. Nor are the Sumerian accounts attributed to any particular author/eyewitness.

A full comparative reading of both accounts reveals that, despite having a few similarities, they are vastly different in style, reasoning and meaning.

I have added this last bit because much is said of the Sumerian "creation" which is not actually correct,where assumptions are made that have no basis in fact.


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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Why snakes? Why not something a bit more friendly and sweet? How about 2 angels or 2 Dolphins? Whatever the reason I do not like it.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:07 PM
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a reply to: John333

You could use two strings instead of snakes. Or 2 vines. Or 2 Trees. There are many things that could be used that do not have occult symbolism attached.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: John333

You could use two strings instead of snakes. Or 2 vines. Or 2 Trees. There are many things that could be used that do not have occult symbolism attached.


Read my post thoroughly, and understsnd this is real.

The forces thst are unseen but felt, are as real as your biology.

Snakes make perfect sense. Hence, only those who lack experience can dismiss and fuss..
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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: John333

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: John333

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: John333
satan was spirit in paradise. just like the serpent.. as obviously all in the garden were perfect beings.. including adam and eve at the time before the fall.

here on earth we experience satan not as spirit ut as carnal desire. no not because uve never seen satan means hes not real or in spirit form. the ego desires of the flesh are satan's manifestation.. in man. the spiritual desires which we tend to neglect in favour of material satisfaction and comfort. so no you cannot invoke, evoke or summon satan. he is you. the flesh part of you. your spirit, is God's sinless spirit which he has imparted to you. we're touching the paradox. its metaphors, symbolism. its fiction but not fiction. the personified form of materialistic drive is satan. it is inherent in all living things who have yet to get in touch with their higher spiritual identity and its moral behaviour. take away the spirit from the body and u are left symbolically with pure satan. a robot, without a conscience, just its programming to keep it going. survive, eat, have sex, fight for territory to minimize resistance from accessing your food source to keep survivng.. for no reason at all.

your task here... prevent the desires of the flesh from corrupting your spirit. allow the spirit to be driver and not the body. the body/flesh is gonna probably get you comforts, but it cannot give you eternal life in an eternal state in the heavenly realms. so.. we choose. dont take the bible stories too literally. they are what i call fictional truths. truths encoded in works of fiction with history incorporated to convey a message. a moral of the story. the message is more important than the story. so you need to get the message. most important thing.

look to the sumerian story. the evil dragon was destroyed and its body used to create the flesh of man. genesis was formed from those sumerian stories. the message was extracted and restructured into a new story.. genesis. same message.. just a different way of telling it.


Why would you assume that Sumerian creation myth preceded Canaanite (Proto-Hebrew) creation? Where is your evidence?

Perhaps Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian myth copied from an earlier Canaanite source? There were, most definitely, Canaanite tribes in existence before the Sumerian empire. The Sumerian culture was of Canaanite origin.



i didnt claim that sumerian stories preceded canaanite stories. but lets put it this way. if there was a flood that killed everyone except one family, then the stories we have would have come from that one family. back then as far as i can recall, there was no written language. all was conveyed orally for a long time. so maybe you can link me to some of these canaanite stories and their claimed source preceding sumeria? the first civilization with writing?


Both Sumerian& Canaanite languages were branches of a proposed proto-semitc language.

There are some Canaanite snake spells that purportedly have been dated to between 3000 and 2400 BC, which potentially makes them older than the earliest Sumerian writings.

Proto-Canaanite / First Tongue / Egyptian - Viewzone



well 3000bc isnt that far back. sumeria is actually dated to be around 3500bc. so we kind of see what i was saying. we would have no written record of canaanite pre-flood era because writing began with sumeria. so we would have to get the stone tablets from the sumerian kings who previously before learning writing and mathematics had the stories passed on to them by their ancestors orally from generation to generation.

id say though u dont want to waste time with spells of any kind. and especially not from the canaanite era. unless, they came from seth and his descendents. everyone else was doing nonesense that was not in tune with the will of nature and the universe.. God.


You have made two assumptions here, one that Sumerian culture had writing from 'day one' and the other that there were not written languages previous to it.

Neither assumption is correct.

Although the Canaanite writings were dated from 3000 BC, the fact that they had been translated into Egyptian hieroglyph indicates that they had been in existence sufficiently early enough to have been in common use and to have traveled from Canaan to Egypt.

The structure of Genesis is that of seven, shorter, personal, eye-witness accounts and histories, assembled into a single document.

In the Genesis accounts, only supernatural entities do supernatural things. In the Sumerian accounts, no such distinction is made. Nor are the Sumerian accounts attributed to any particular author/eyewitness.

A full comparative reading of both accounts reveals that, despite having a few similarities, they are vastly different in style, reasoning and meaning.



well no i didnt make the first assumption at all as i know based on the records that writing and mathematics agriculture etc was learned and developed in their culture, so no they would not have had a complete written language on the first day.

and well the second assumption is a bit technical. pre-sumeria we dont have much written to go on. and well you also have to fully trust our dating methods to be accurate. the technical question is that.. well.. as far as we know, pre-writing there were pictograms. which seem like a logical precedent stage before a fully developed written language is formed. the question is... do you consider pictures carved into rock which indeed told a story to the dwellers there 'a written language'?

the pictograms were later incorporated into the hebrew language. which combines numerology and picture/symbols into its phonetic language. the timeline places man still in the era of language that depends mostly on phonics. while slowly compressing data and graduating to more articulate forms of language over centuries.

so id say those are really the only 2 issues. trusting our dating methods whole heartedly and what requirements must be met for written/carved information to be considered a full and proper language. what youre looking for is not a pre-hebrew /phoenecian language. but a pre-cuniform language. as cuniform is the noted first language.
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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:18 PM
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In my understanding; the snakes are biological representations of spiraling DNA around the spine of the human being,


But only since 1952 when Raymond Gosling and Rosalind Franklin, produced the image known as Photo 51 which allowed us to begin to develop a model of DNA that includes the helical double strands that you are referring to, right?

Or was it clairvoyance?




posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Why snakes? Why not something a bit more friendly and sweet? How about 2 angels or 2 Dolphins? Whatever the reason I do not like it.


I believe that the association between a snake or snakes wrapped around a staff and 'medicine' has to do with the Hebrew exodus story where they were in a desert area and were being bitten by poisonous snakes. Moses inquired of God for a solution and was told to place a brass serpent on a pole and when the people looked upon the serpent, they would not die.

One particular tribe of Hebrews, the tribe of Dan, later moved into a coastal area of the promised land that was already peopled by Phoenicians. They interbred with the natives (rather than keep themselves racially pure as was mandated by God) and integrated into the sea-bourne trade businesses in the area. From there, these Hebrew peoples interbred into many places around the Mediterranean Sea, including Greece and Sparta. In doing so, they carried their traditions which were integrated into Greek culture.


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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Wonder how many would die without the doctors.
When ill I will still trust my doctors because they have already saved my lifevtwice.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: John333

You could use two strings instead of snakes. Or 2 vines. Or 2 Trees. There are many things that could be used that do not have occult symbolism attached.


first... relinquish all fear of the macabre and all fear of information that falls under the word occult. occult mean 'hidden'. and as much as such information was jealously guarded at one time.. it no longer is. you can now find any information about all the hidden teachings of the ancient times as well as modern aspirants take and way of expressing the occult knowledge. 90% of the modern ones dont really know what theyre talking about. they just have a clue.

next.. its as the previous poster said. based on what region u were living in you would identify with certain animals to convey your knowledge of spirituality. kind of like how each country has a nation bird or animal of some sort. that particular animal was not only unique to the region, but also some attributes of the divine could be identified using it. this made it much easier for the people being taught to understand since they were working with familiar animals.

there are actually lots of symbols that reflect spirituality without using snakes. some do use trees, vines, roots, hearts, stars, flowers like the lotus etc. so say you were from a tribe in africa and your people had master knowledge of star systems, the star would be your chosen teaching tool.

it really, really doesnt matter. as long as you get the message and know what your purpose is here. its up to whether or not you want to gain the knowledge.. or argue with the storyteller because u dont like the way he tells the story.

lets take a look at the lotus. why is the lotus so special to the buddha and this region of people? the buddha used this flower which carries the special attribute of blossoming in murky waters in pristine clean form. the buddha thus used this flower as a symbol for the blossoming of 7th chakra to explain to his followers how they exist in a realm of suffering, and that they must graduate out of these murky waters like the lotus gaining the shield of divinity and purity even among the murkiness around you.

theres alot more about the lotus that makes it specially chosen for that region and people.
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