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originally posted by: SONOFTHEMORNING
a reply to: Aedaeum
I want to know how a scientist working towards 'artificial' consciousness, doesn't have an understanding of the basics of how consciousness works.
How are you ever going to recreate something you don't understand yourself?
A bottom-up approach is the piecing together of systems to give rise to more complex systems, thus making the original systems sub-systems of the emergent system. Bottom-up processing is a type of information processing based on incoming data from the environment to form a perception. From a Cognitive Psychology perspective, information enters the eyes in one direction (sensory input, or the "bottom"), and is then turned into an image by the brain that can be interpreted and recognized as a perception (output that is "built up" from processing to final cognition). In a bottom-up approach the individual base elements of the system are first specified in great detail. These elements are then linked together to form larger subsystems, which then in turn are linked, sometimes in many levels, until a complete top-level system is formed. This strategy often resembles a "seed" model, whereby the beginnings are small but eventually grow in complexity and completeness. However, "organic strategies" may result in a tangle of elements and subsystems, developed in isolation and subject to local optimization as opposed to meeting a global purpose.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: starswift
Can a rock pass a self awareness test?
And when you say the A.I. is self aware, what do you really mean?
Can a robot know God, the source of the true self?
If so there will some day be a Christ robot to lead us to salvation.
Especially if it's self awareness surpasses that of humans.
Then will come the robot Ant-Christ, and the game will be afoot.
sounds like the set up to a bad joke.
originally posted by: JackReyes
originally posted by: toktaylor
a reply to: JackReyes
You guys are missing the big picture. Why do human spend so much time studying our environment, planets etc? the goal is the preservation of life, to be immortal. If we can prove that AI can be self aware then it is just a short step to upload over awareness (consciousness) into robots and live forever.
No, you are missing the big picture. Life is not worth living if there is no love in it. Love is the purpose of life. It came into being because of love, and we only continue to exist because of love. And everlasting life can be achieved, but only by means of love.
There is no reason to live forever if there is no love. None.
And there is no reason to create conscious beings if it was not for love and out of love.
originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: Kapusta
Ok..let's assume this is true AI..it isn't, as has been pointed out already, but let's say it is and the androids are going to be a big hit..what the hell does that mean for society?
The impact of androids with true AI would be enormous..the entire fabric of what we think of as our societies would have to change.
Androids would essentially be technological slaves..in a nutshell they would be a mechanical slaves, doing the work, manufacturing, doing labour intensive tasks, replacing firefighters, paramedics and doctors, manual workers, farmers, even prostitutes...our systems would need to be radically altered to compensate for tens of millions who's services would no longer be required.
Financial systems would have to be replaced. How could we have a society that isn't earning a wage, not paying income tax, and is dependant on the state to live?
Would we all live lives of luxury? Live off the fruits of our android slaves' labour?
How would we cope when one fine day, an AI android enters politics...or runs for parliament..or president?
The benefits of intelligent androids are huge, but even ignoring the dystopian like fears of an android apocalypse scenario, the effects on us and our systems will be profound.
However, as we can assume that all three robots were coded the same, technically, all three have passed this self-awareness test.