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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Oh my oh my....
Jesus camp for adults seeks to impose Christianity on the US by converting 1,000 pastors into politicians
I learned about the New Apostolic Reformationist and Seven Mountain Dominionists a couple of years ago. At that time, they remained rather "underground", below the radar. No more.
You all will have to click the link to see the story (originally posted in the International Business Times, but I couldn't find it on there) - this version is on rawstory.com. I can't post a snippet either.
Briefly, the evangelicals are mobilizing big time - a gathering commenced to begin training pastors to become political operatives - i.e. running for office. 300 of them in Florida, with Mike Huckabee slated as keynote speaker.
This is rather alarming.
This began last November, according to the Washington Times.
A prominent evangelical Christian leader has launched an effort to recruit 1,000 pastors willing to run for political office, hoping to inject religious issues and candidates into the 2016 election.
David Lane, the founder of the American Renewal Project, said he hopes he can persuade pastors to run for offices as varied as school board and city council to the state legislature and Congress. He’s scheduled an organizing meeting in January in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Read more: www.washingtontimes.com...
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
An additional link from The American Renewal Project
It seems to me there must be some boundary that is being crossed, but maybe not. It just sounds .... off.
By engaging pastors and church communities, Mr. Lane hopes ultimately that more Christians will head to the polls.
“We have a Christian responsibility to engage people and get out the vote,” Mr. Lane said adding that the pastors “might decide that the Lord doesn’t want them to run for office, but they may have someone in their church who is very talented and can encourage them to.”
He argued that America was established as a Judeo-Christian nation and that separation of church and state was never meant to keep religion out of politics.
“There’s no truth to that, the Constitution says the state is to keep out of the church, it doesn’t say the church is to keep out of the state,” Mr. Lane said, adding that secularism is another religion that’s being imposed on Americans.
Read more: www.washingtontimes.com...
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
Another storm brewing....not so quietly. Americans mustn't let themselves be taken by surprise. Please do your due diligence and learn all you can about those hopefuls currently running for office, and how they are recruiting. What party do they claim?
I'll just leave this here and see if anyone wants to discuss it.
originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: chr0naut
Well many of these radical Christians are seeking to get a seat in the vice presidency.
originally posted by: grimpachi
The question is, will these tools announce that they are tools or will they try to slide in under the radar.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: GUITARPLAYER
Those are not religious-based-laws.
And I don't see any americans ANYWHERE, in ANY station, calling for lifting of those laws. They are, I believe, of Greco-Roman origin, by the way.
EDIT: At least in the case of murder, it goes clear back to the earliest recorded law - the Sumerian code.
One of the oldest known prohibitions against murder appears in the Sumerian Code of Ur-Nammu written sometime between 2100 and 2050 BC. The code states, "If a man commits a murder, that man must be killed." The payment of weregild was an important legal mechanism in early Germanic society. If someone was killed, the guilty person would have to pay weregild to the victim's family. The other common form of legal reparation at this time was blood revenge.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: chr0naut
You don't find any blood-chilling premonition of ISIS-type possibilities?
I wouldn't have, either, 5 years ago. Not even after 9/11.
Now, though - it seems all bets are off.
In case you didn't read the links, part of the training is to have these pastors recruit from among their own congregations, too. They're making a "grass-roots" strategy.
originally posted by: GUITARPLAYER
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: xuenchen
Are people going to be worried that religion will creep into laws?
What do YOU think? You think those people intend to leave religion OUT of their laws?
Which religious based laws would you get rid of? Murder? Rape? Incest?
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Oh my oh my....
Jesus camp for adults seeks to impose Christianity on the US by converting 1,000 pastors into politicians
I learned about the New Apostolic Reformationist and Seven Mountain Dominionists a couple of years ago. At that time, they remained rather "underground", below the radar. No more.
You all will have to click the link to see the story (originally posted in the International Business Times, but I couldn't find it on there) - this version is on rawstory.com. I can't post a snippet either.
Briefly, the evangelicals are mobilizing big time - a gathering commenced to begin training pastors to become political operatives - i.e. running for office. 300 of them in Florida, with Mike Huckabee slated as keynote speaker.
This is rather alarming.
This began last November, according to the Washington Times.
A prominent evangelical Christian leader has launched an effort to recruit 1,000 pastors willing to run for political office, hoping to inject religious issues and candidates into the 2016 election.
David Lane, the founder of the American Renewal Project, said he hopes he can persuade pastors to run for offices as varied as school board and city council to the state legislature and Congress. He’s scheduled an organizing meeting in January in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Read more: www.washingtontimes.com...
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
An additional link from The American Renewal Project
It seems to me there must be some boundary that is being crossed, but maybe not. It just sounds .... off.
By engaging pastors and church communities, Mr. Lane hopes ultimately that more Christians will head to the polls.
“We have a Christian responsibility to engage people and get out the vote,” Mr. Lane said adding that the pastors “might decide that the Lord doesn’t want them to run for office, but they may have someone in their church who is very talented and can encourage them to.”
He argued that America was established as a Judeo-Christian nation and that separation of church and state was never meant to keep religion out of politics.
“There’s no truth to that, the Constitution says the state is to keep out of the church, it doesn’t say the church is to keep out of the state,” Mr. Lane said, adding that secularism is another religion that’s being imposed on Americans.
Read more: www.washingtontimes.com...
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
Another storm brewing....not so quietly. Americans mustn't let themselves be taken by surprise. Please do your due diligence and learn all you can about those hopefuls currently running for office, and how they are recruiting. What party do they claim?
I'll just leave this here and see if anyone wants to discuss it.
If our governments are actually democracies, then surely there should be a representation of the most popular group of affiliated citizens and it should be proportionally sized to that representation.
About 70% of Americans identify themselves as Christian. It has been estimated that there are 513,200 political offices (local and state government) in the United States. 70% of that would be 359,240. So 1,000 politicians hardly approaches proportional representation.
This is simply democracy in action. A consequence of democracy is that there are those who believe and act differently than others.
Nothing new in any of this this at all. The responses of fear, horror and indignation that have been expressed in this thread are not really historically soundly based, for any democratic government.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: chr0naut
Nothing new in any of this this at all. The responses of fear, horror and indignation that have been expressed in this thread are not really historically soundly based, for any democratic government.
The fear, horror and indignation probably has something to do with how many people are now dead or refugees in the ME, where some people decided they needed to take over the entire region. You think? And the fact that they aren't being very nice about it....that might be it, too.
Militants are militants.