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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: peskyhumans
This is a direct contradiction to the "facts" presented by Obama right before passing Obamacare into law. He said that increased competition would reduce premiums for everyone, and that in order to help Obamacare stay on budget, they would find ways to make medical care more cost-effective and efficient.
Ah no..that would have only happened had there been actual competition, like a state or fed sponsored plan for the insurance companies to compete with.
So what happened? I thought Obamacare was going to be a socialist utopia of medicine. Everyone gets covered, premiums are reduced for everyone, and medicine becomes cheaper everywhere? Somehow we ended up with the complete opposite - millions are not covered and have to pay fines because of the mandate, medicine is more expensive than ever, and premiums keep rising.
That's because the public option was stripped from the bill or any discussions about the bill.
Effectively what Obamacare turned out to be, was a giant hand out to the insurance companies, without any framework that forces them to level the playing field in costs or quality of service.
Which I imagine, is just what they wanted anyway.
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: poncho1982
And what has the other side done to get the option back in?
All they want to to do is scrape the whole thing and go back to how it was.
originally posted by: jimmyx
yeah, it's a good thing the republicans worked with democrats trying to make healthcare affordable and...oh yeah, they didn't....well, at least the republicans brought up sensible ideas to fund....oh...that's right...they voted to kill the act over 52 times....well, now that they have the control the entire congress maybe they can work with the next president to drive down insurance costs for the ACA....oh that's right...they are actively vowing to repeal it....
the motto of the republican 2016 election should be "working to make the top 10% of this country wealthier, and get the bottom 90% to pay for it"
originally posted by: babybunnies
It's not Obama who's raising the premiums, it's the heath care industry who are taking a hit.
Given the fact that they now have to cover a lot of stuff that they didn't before, it was only logical.
originally posted by: xuenchen
But Obama insisted that premiums would be lower.