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Originally posted by Kidfinger
Good point Jedimaster. But still, in the history of the US, there has never been a president as hated as Bush. I have never heard these accusations put forth towards any other president. I did some research, and you right about Lincoln being compared to Nero. But I cant find any other references to hatred of a president as Bush has garnered.
Originally posted by Kidfinger
Good point Jedimaster. But still, in the history of the US, there has never been a president as hated as Bush. I have never heard these accusations put forth towards any other president. I did some research, and you right about Lincoln being compared to Nero. But I cant find any other references to hatred of a president as Bush has garnered.
Originally posted by JediMaster
Richard Milhouse Nixon.
Many folk hated him before Watergate and many more after it.
Originally posted by Carseller4
When was the last time you saw a crowd of angry Republican protesters?
Originally posted by Teh_Gerbil
I don't think so...
It's been worrying me to, a White, Straight, Christian, Right Wing America is his goal... And of course, conquering his "Axis Of Evil" List, which contains pretty much half the world, many unexplained ones. He's trying to spread the American way of life to those who don't want it's corruption. Hence inspiring more hatred for America. Pretty funny situation if it wasn't so dangerous to innocent Americans who hate Bush and realise how bad he is.
Originally posted by Teh_Gerbil
Nazi Germany was pretty much a police state. Check out the Patriot and 2 acts.
And Hitler persectuted Jews. Think of how persectuded Arabs are now, even in the good ol' Free US of A.
Hitler said he wanted a united Europe too. Bush may say this but just like Hitler, he wants HIS vision of civil unity.
Right iwngers tend to be very strongly partiotic, and like to indentify a "Set enemy" For Hitler it was Jews, and Bush its the Arabic nations, wether or not they pose a threat. Just like the Jews in Nazi Germany.
He obviously wont come clean until its to late, like Hitler. And it'll happen again, as always. War is terrible yet seems inevitable.
Originally posted by Teh_Gerbil
Ok, sorry, I've been drinking a little on the typing front. It Christmas...
Fighting for them by trying to impose democracy on a nation that doesn't want it, and 'coincidently' the new powers there let you build oil pipelines? How nice of them!
Lets also remember who put in Saddam thinking we could manipulate him to exploit their country too...
He's not said anything about disliking all Arabs, no, but alot of them have been sent to trial and/or jailed with little or no evidence linking them to terrorist plots at all.
One lot were sent to trial but dismissed over a video showing a holiday to disney land. Wtf? Oh, and where is any evidence Iraq was a threat, at all?
If that was the REAL reason you guys would have fixed N.Korea, THEY are the threat today. The Arabic nations in general are pretty harmless. Note how the people in Afghanistan and Iraq ain't that much better off now.
They're free (Except the parts under terrorist/warlord control), but free and with little left. Some have no homes, no possesions left.
Sometimes war is necessary, was it in Iraq of Afghanistan? Bin Laden is not captured, Iraq is worse off. At least Saddam had no Terrorists terrorising folks, he did that, there was ONE threat. Not many.
Originally posted by Teh_Gerbil
I'll give you that one on Women being free now, thats good, but the fact is Afghanistan hasn't changed much really. Their are still people getting kidnapped, and its not that safe. You just can't take Capitalism and Democracy to places that don't want it. I wish someone would realise that.
Iraq went wrong for a couple of reasons. There was no threat, and we didn't plan the aftermath correctly. It did'nt helpo that in the aftermath not laot was done to actually improve anyones life. I feel sorry for the soldiers most off, they take the flak the commanders should get.
If the Bush administration had gone to N.Korea on WMD claims, you'd have some to show. There was also a Nuclear exploison their recently, and they dsid try to invade the south before like Iraq did Kuwait... But N.Korea has a decent Military which could fight. The Iraqi one realised it's hopelessness after Gulf War 1's defeat and fled. All Saddam ever did was fire a few SCUD's, which were lucky if they detonated.
Random citizen's are no longer being tortured, yes, that is a good point. What isn't so good is that they live in fear of a random suicide bomber exploding or a car bomb.
The new equality amoung male/felames is good, yes, you have also done other good things like in Afghanistan you rebuilt alot of public facilities. But, when the War in Iraq started, Afghanistan was'nt finished, and the small number of guy's there couldn't contain the Warlords. Shame, so much wasted potential. Iraq could have waited, it wasn't going to magically rebuild a huge WMD arsenal or buy up lots of Arms. It was too poor and in a bad way anyway. Hell, it was struggling to survive with all the embagoes.
But at least they won't be appointed in a dictatorship. Besides, I don't think the Iraqi's want another Hussein in office.
We are all aware though, that plenty of Iraqi's are going to support the first extremist who runs for election, aren't we?
Reichsbank President Hjalmar Schacht smugly told the official Nazi newspaper V�lkischer Beobachter that the American leader had adopted the economic philosophy of Hitler and Mussolini. Even Hitler had kind words at first for Roosevelt�s �dynamic� leadership, stating that �I have sympathy with President Roosevelt because he marches straight to his objective over Congress, over lobbies, over stubborn bureaucracies.�
Mises Institute
Tugwell praised communism as supposedly being "able to produce goods in greater quantities" than capitalism, so as to "spread such prosperity as there is over wider areas of the population." Yes, there may be a certain "ruthlessness, a disregard for liberties and rights," wrote Tugwell, but anyone interested in "peace, prosperity, and progress" must nevertheless imitate "Russia and the Russians."
Originally posted by PistolPete
Like I said I don't want to get into much because I'm researching a thing that will have a great deal of FDR.
[edit on (12/28/0404 by PistolPete]