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For the one who sow to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption but the one who sows to the spirit will from the spirit reap eternal life.
2 Corinthians 4:17
Those who have insight will shine brightly like the expanses of heaven
...whoever believes in him shall not perish but will have eternal life.
But god will redeem my soul from the power of Sheol, for he shall revive me.
but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life.
I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.
For with You is the fountain of life; In Your light we see light.
In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.
1 John 1:1-2
What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the Word of Life-- and the life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us.
"The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly.
I am the living bread that came down out of heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread also which I will give for the life of the world is My flesh.
And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or farms for My name's sake, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life.
I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me;
Jesus disclosed to His disciples that the lower world is under the control of a great spiritual being which had fashioned it according to the will of the Eternal Father. The mind of this great angel was both the mind of the world and also the worldly mind. So that men should not die of worldliness the Eternal Father sent unto creation the eldest and most exalted of His powers--the Divine Mind. This Divine Mind offered Itself as a living sacrifice and was broken up and eaten by the world.
Having given Its spirit and Its body at a secret and sacred supper to the twelve manners of rational creatures, this Divine Mind became a part of every living thing. (*** Man was thereby enabled to use this power as a bridge ***) across which he might pass and attain immortality. He who lifted up his soul to this Divine Mind and served It was righteous and, having attained righteousness, liberated this Divine Mind, which thereupon returned again in glory to Its own divine source. And because He had brought to them this knowledge, the disciples said one to another: "Lo, He is Himself this Mind personified!
originally posted by: Wifibrains
What part of a person might be able to transcend the material? I mean most cells are replaced multiple times in during a life time...
So it is not just about elemental replenishment - Prana or Life Force is essential for existence.
originally posted by: MimiSia
a reply to: [post=19355231]Wifibrains
I love the nickname and I love the threat.
originally posted by: Unity_99
The issues on eternal life are a bit confusing. The elite are going for ai and various dna upgrades, there is alot of dna in the bible. Do you mean physically? Or spirit ascending, and gaining higher levels?
(To me this is because they probably realize that some consequences await them and are trying to prolong this.)
We are already infinite parts of infinity, and we exist all over the place basically, concurrently, in infinite ways, and Higher Self could time travel and sit on a table with you if it was a part your tests, or a an allowing was taking place. Its a wonderful quirky quantum infinity and it takes more understanding, empathy, love, intelligence, turning the dial up high to expand and progress spirit.
Infinity is both complete and progressing, your journey both being untaken and complete in a wonderful paradox, with Higher Mind and Lower gravity and dense mind constructs. But no parts of the infinity stand still and the teleos purpose or growth purpose, from seed to tree, is inherent in everything.
This body is not our natural vessel and we don't want to live indefinitely in them. If you have a closet to hang all your body suits in, this is not going to be your favorite outfit. At all
And the sacrifice part. i don't know if finding abstract language is a male energy thing or not. Maybe men see giving as sacrifice. Mothers energy sees it as loving your children, or a state of love in motion, the natural state of being happy is ensuring those around you are as well. Its not abstracted or hidden in different terms, its heart energy, soul energy, emotional energy, essence basically. It forms connections between people. Creates Family, and joins star systems. Don't really have words to express but just know its not an abstract term that isn't emotionally charged. Sacrifice is.
originally posted by: Wifibrains
a reply to: bb23108
Would that be similar Fohat, in the theosophical sense?
There is a concept of mind over matter, and also that the universe is mental at some level, and by way of willing force energies in the creation of the mental to take effect on reality, the universe will accommodate for certain changes instructed by thought.
it would not be sacrificial if it was something not needed or thatwould not missed.
originally posted by: UniFinity
And what do we have here? hm .. one more great thread from you Wifi!
At my current understanding from Advaita Vedanta (all is one) philosophy, for sacrifice I would propose this idea.
Sacrifice simply means that you should stop looking at yourself as just a body, this is the greatest and only true sin! Drop all egoistic tendencies and latent impressions which are developed during our life and try to just be in the being of present moment, always aware of your whole self, and not just the self which we all know - our body and mind combo.
In doing the sacrifice you are expressing ultimate devotion to your true being and the truth will be reviled to such individual when all ego, mind, body impressions are dissolved then such individual achieves Turiya state which is pure conciousness. As explained by Ramana Maharshi or many other saints.
And in doing so such a person realizes that there is no one to enlighten, no one to die and no one to live. And eternity is achieved.
All is conciousness.