Connect the dots, do the comparison, US is preparing for civil war

I just can't believe the stuff debunkers are trying to have us believe.

That it is normal US government ordered tons of bullets for all kinds of domestic agencies, 10 year war worth of bullets.

That it is normal to have black choppers fly at night through the city.

That Jade Helm is a normal exercise.

You can know great many things if you employ critical thinking. Both Russia and China have military, both China and Russia are more authoritarian as we are told.

And yet they do standard military exercises always aimed at fighting external enemy which is what military is for.

Painting is on the wall, US government is preparing for either a false flag or economic reset/collapse, or announcement of world war, or alien something.

They are preparing for something JOE SIX PACK AIN'T GONNA LIKE or support.

a reply to: TorinoFer

They have been preparing for 200 years, and with the exception of a rough patch 150 years ago, that day has never arrived. Still, if you enjoy living in fear.....

a reply to: DJW001

I don't enjoy fear or doom porn.

And I wonder what you are gonna say at the height of the coming civil war.

Oh that's right, you won't say anything because president of US has Internet shutdown switch as of 2 years ago.

a reply to: TorinoFer

I've been hearing about this coming new civil war for the better part of the last two decades. I'm sure older folk have been hearing about it longer. I don't think it's happening anytime soon. Sorry to disappoint.

Fear mongers and the overly paranoid have been saying that for generations, and guess what? It still hasn't happened. Step away from your computer, go outside, and get some fresh air.

a reply to: TorinoFer

Oh that's right, you won't say anything because president of US has Internet shutdown switch as of 2 years ago.

No Internet? *gasp* How will we ever find out about all those guillotines and plastic grave liners the government is stockpiling then?

Believe it or not, the internet has never been necessary. There was life before it was conceived, and life will continue even if it is destroyed utterly by a CME. I agree: you need to go outside and get some fresh air.

I don't know for sure one way or the other. However, I think it does look like they are preparing for a civil war, one that they have caused. All the discontent, all the hatred of the monster sized government, it's bound to happen. People have been pushed and pushed.

I guess I'm agreeing with you, but just not sure how it will likely play out. But yeah, TPTB know it's coming, and so they prepare.

Seriously, so what? Its unlikely that anything like an economic collapse or a civil war will happen. Especially in america, but if it did what are you going to do about it? That not rhetorical, that a serious question. Do you have a plan for when the # hits the fan? You got beans and water? What is the point? If you believe it is so the get prepared and put your mind at ease. Stop bring so afraid.

Sorry guys, but if you don't see the end of the US dollar in the next decade or so, you're just not paying attention.

When the money stops, the food stops moving- when the cities are hungry, they will burn.

They have created a self perpetuating system in which the masses work for faith units which they can exchange for goods and services- but not without the overhead taking their every growing cut. For me, Right now, that cut is 30% off the top, and 22% off the bottom. More than half of every faith unit I earn goes to overhead, and more still goes to the bankers to pay back interest on money they made up out of thin air to allow me to "borrow" to "buy" this house- from them.

The financial system was intentionally built to degrade in this way, and it has slowly increased the squeeze on us over the course of a hundred years with very little opposition.
Now that it's on it's head (more than half to overhead) it's simply unsustainable. There are too many people with not enough wealth, working every day just to pay the interest on the food they consume.



There is going to be a large surplus of hungry, angry, and not too bright people. Those in power now only want to maintain their power- but when the leash of faith in currency is broken, they will only have one course of action to keep us in line.
They are getting ready.
We should be, too.

a reply to: TorinoFer

Civil war? North and south again? Or east and west? What are the sides and oh yeah what's the issue?

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: TorinoFer

Oh that's right, you won't say anything because president of US has Internet shutdown switch as of 2 years ago.

No Internet? *gasp* How will we ever find out about all those guillotines and plastic grave liners the government is stockpiling then?

Believe it or not, the internet has never been necessary. There was life before it was conceived, and life will continue even if it is destroyed utterly by a CME. I agree: you need to go outside and get some fresh air.

I remember life before the internet. It involved a lot of trips to the library.

All of the above post are relevant, but they do not take into account that much of this New World way of doing things, Is very New. unmatched ability of the corporate world, to buy up a lot of Public property. Only for the Corporation's to resale back, what is being bought up. And that all find and dandy in a corporate world. Much of governmnet are actually loosing control, and is being switched to privately owned. None of which isn't being challenged really, and now are going to have nation state status making legally able to sue for projected loses. New Currency wars. New Digital Age, So much of the way we live our lives is New, making for easier leverage on a populus

a reply to: TorinoFer

First four comments were from de-bunkers. I stopped there. The Crap was just too deep..Want I should Flame em'? I like your OP. Trying to read all the comms below your OP, but The $h!t is just too deep. Guess I need to slide into my Hip Waders eh? Wow...
Syx...

I'm betting on yellowstone blowing.

Nope, you can hope for it all you want, but it's just not going to happen in the near future.


The federal government is simply too powerful for any kind of civil revolt to be viable. It'd get quashed within a matter of hours.

We are headed for a slow, grinding decline.

originally posted by: DiggerDogg
Nope, you can hope for it all you want, but it's just not going to happen in the near future.


The federal government is simply too powerful for any kind of civil revolt to be viable. It'd get quashed within a matter of hours.

We are headed for a slow, grinding decline.

I am in agreement with you on this. There's no credible catalyst for a "Civil War". I've discussed the military exercises and the stockpiling of ammo by all the Federal agencies with my Dad who's been around quite a while. Like 85 years and he was in the military for years in Germany immediately following WWII.

My Dad's take on this is that the most likely cause for all this Federal preparation and practice and such is actually out of fear of something like another 9/11 event or a series of attacks all across the country that would throw fear and panic into populace at large, cause a shut down or dramatic fall off of airline traffic and business activity and prompt a blow down in the Stock and Financial markets. He remarks that since Hurricane Katrina, the general public perceives the US Federal Gov't to be somewhat ham handed and slow to respond and they are doing anything and everything they can to improve their response times and coordinated effective reaction scenarios to improve that perception in the wake of terrorist attacks. He points out that the Feds don't discuss what they don't know and its his opinion that at this point, they don't have a really good handle on who's in the country.

Any way, just to share that "wisdom", assuming of course that it's "wise".
Thanks

a reply to: TorinoFer

the only things i see that would cause a response from the people of the United States is:

- increase in gas price
- limitations on internet either pay by the giga bite or an increase in monthly fee

people don't seem to care about much else. freedom of speech? right to keep and bear arms? quality education? health care? no not any of those things.

take away facebook, charge more than $3.50 a gallon for fuel, yeah that will get people talking.

with the decades we spent in the middle east i would expect cheap fuel for my tax investment in the war effort.

originally posted by: TorinoFer
That it is normal US government ordered tons of bullets for all kinds of domestic agencies, 10 year war worth of bullets.

Buying in bulk is nothing new, and we saw this reported about five years ago too - still no Martial Law.
Is it really ten years worth, or is that just what the right-wing paranoid blogosphere is telling you?

originally posted by: TorinoFer
That it is normal to have black choppers fly at night through the city.

Happened plenty of times before.
Remember about ten years ago when Alex Jones was watching one exercise in a city and claimed it was Martial Law? Guess what, no Martial Law, it turned out to be exactly what they said it was - an urban exercise.

originally posted by: TorinoFer
That Jade Helm is a normal exercise.

This is done routinely in the US and this example is only different because it's lasting longer and covers a larger area.

originally posted by: TorinoFer
You can know great many things if you employ critical thinking. Both Russia and China have military, both China and Russia are more authoritarian as we are told.

You speak of critical thinking but you seem to display little of it.
I'm not sure what you are claiming here. Both Russia and China ARE INDEED more authoritarian. Check the levels of democracy in both nations, the press freedom, the state of Human rights in both countries, the living conditions of millions of people, the state of education, the oppression, the censoring of the Internet...

You seem to be another American complaining about nothing, having somehow convinced yourself that you're being "oppressed" when in reality you don't know the meaning of the world - first world exaggerations.

originally posted by: TorinoFer
And yet they do standard military exercises always aimed at fighting external enemy which is what military is for.

Yes, they prepare for combat with an external enemy, and if you'd paid any attention to what this exercise is about you would have heard the explanation for this - that the areas covered offer all types of terrain, which you would find in all kinds of battle regions from Afghanistan to Europe.

Lets not forget also that the military might be required one day for combat on US soil, for example if an invading force should somehow arrive, or a large terrorist organization spring up supported by a foreign power, or indeed a violent revolution.

originally posted by: TorinoFer
Painting is on the wall, US government is preparing for either a false flag or economic reset/collapse, or announcement of world war, or alien something.

Or the military is simply preparing for combat with a large exercise covering an area able to give them the experience they would need for various potential theaters of combat over the coming 20 years.

They could indeed be preparing for urban warfare against a revolution within the US too. And guess what, this is not nefarious either. Your democratically elected government has to maintain democracy and the rule of law, and if a group of right-wing activists decides that they're done with democracy and want to force their conservative notions of Christian government on the population the government would be well within their right to put down that insurrection.

Here's the one thing it seems many people here don't get - if you want a "revolution", in a democratic nation, just because you disagree with what the government is doing while the majority of the country is quite happy, you become a terrorist. You don't get to invent a new label for yourself just because you consider yourself to be a "patriot". If the rest of your democratic nation rejects your politics, tough titties!

You get to try to persuade and convince people that your political ideas are the right way to go, and they get to decide through democratic voting. The moment you pick up any weapon to try to usurp that system you are a terrorist using violence to force your political ideology onto your society.

Things might be different if you are actually being oppressed, but lets be honest here, YOU'RE NOT.

a reply to: TorinoFer

We ARE in a civil war.
We have been since the 1960s.

a reply to: Rocker2013

Do you need martial law to prove we are in a civil war?

Economically we have been for a long time. Underground war, definitely.

ETA: Your post reminds me of The Spanish Civil War, do we have another Franco? Possibly we could.