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In Defense of Chemtrail Conspiracy Theorists: Part 6. Contrail vs. Chemtrail

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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 11:35 AM
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In Part 6 of a critical examination of chemtrail conspiracy theorists, we consider how these individuals have been accused of fabricating the word "chemtrail," which their opponents insist should be called a "contrail," as if the later term means something that is only "normal" and has no potential for harm whatsoever.

Pollution is contamination of the environment with a harmful substance. Air pollution results from chemicals and particulate matter released into the atmosphere (e.g., carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, chlorofluorocarbons, nitrogen oxides). Photochemical ozone and smog are created as nitrogen oxides and hydrocarbons react to sunlight. Smog and haze reduces the amount of sunlight received by plants to carry out photosynthesis. Air pollution turns into water and soil pollution. Sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides released into the atmosphere cause what's commonly called "acid rain," which lowers the pH value of soil and harms various plant life.

The harm air pollution has done to humans is even worse. Ozone pollution is suspected as one cause of respiratory and cardiovascular disease, throat inflammation, asthma and congestion. Particulate matter is even more of a concern. EPA (www.epa.gov...) notes that because of their small size, certain particles about 10 micrometers and smaller are not stopped in the nose and upper lungs by the body's natural defenses but go deep into the lungs, where they may become trapped. Exposure to particulate matter can cause wheezing and similar symptoms in people with asthma or sensitive airways. Particulate matter can be a vector for toxic air pollutants and even damage the heart.

But what does this have to do with contrails and chemtrail conspiracy theory? According to NASA's own website (science-edu.larc.nasa.gov...) jet engine exhaust contains carbon dioxide, water vapor, nitrogen oxides, carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons such as methane, sulfates, soot, and metal particles. This means air pollutants are indeed sprayed by jet aircraft. The contrail itself is a "human-induced" cloud formed by water vapor that condenses as it clings to the particulate matter of jet exhaust and then freezes. Because a contrail may be mostly composed of water, this does not negate that it contains soot as well as "dissolved gases like sulfur dioxide." Sulphur dioxide is an indisputile form of air pollution. Water vapor on its own may not qualify as pollution, but it is certainly a chemical (H2O). Every condensed and frozen droplet has formed around a particle of soot. So even if there are no unexpected toxic elements present in a "normal" contrail, every time a contrail marks the sky its presence is a guarantee that air pollution was released. It practically begs the question: Why is the term "chemtrail" considered by some to be such an inappropriate name for the trail of chemicals left behind by jet aircraft?

The reason, which opponents of chemtrailers will deny, has something to do with the power of labels. You may be aware of how innocent civilians killed in war are often referred to as "collateral damage." You may have also heard that when people develop a secondary illness after receiving a treatment this is often called a "side effect." The innocent term "contrail," the popular shortened form for "condensation trail," is defended by debunkers who continue to focus only on the similarity contrails have with natural clouds, which is condensed H2O, even though this byproduct of jet exhaust contains multiple chemicals. Early pioneers of labeling theory realized that certain labels are used to manage and control information about something. Sociologist Erving Goffman noted that the psychological demands on society creates an urgency for things to appear normal, and what follows as a means to this end is the labelling of that which is "deviant." The label applied to a "normal" or "deviant" person or thing affects how you respond to it. Experiments by Elizabeth Loftus and J.C. Palmer in the 1970s demonstrated that when you manipulate the label applied to a single event (e.g., how fast were cars going when they "smashed into each other" vs "contacted each other") perceptions of the event are altered. Labels also affect how you are EXPECTED to respond to a person or thing. In fact, even the term "conspiracy theorist" has become a powerful label used by many for the sole purpose of stigmatizing someone, often in ways that do nothing but reinforce social reality.

Taking the above into account, there is widespread reluctance among debunkers to accept the term "chemtrail," and this resistance is not based on any great fact, particularly given a condensation trail not only contains chemicals but is also a form of pollution. The resistance of the term is one way that the desire to assert normalcy over a phenomenon manifests itself. Just the sight of persistent contrails filling the sky has been deemed so disturbing it's sometimes referred to as "aircraft graffiti." There is nothing "normal" about the activity of human beings creating lines of persistent contrails or the cirrus clouds they sometimes turn into, much like there is nothing normal about cloud seeding to manipulate precipitation. There's nothing "normal" about how contrails in the sky affect the weather by cooling the daytime and warming the night ( See: www.ldeo.columbia.edu... ). If anything, it's an abnormal practice to fly jet airplanes to the extent that this activity is responsible for what's called "global dimming." To continue this unregulated activity is considered to be a form of pathological behavior by some because of the environmental degradation and negative health impacts that a growing body of research indicates are consequences for it.

The condemnation of the term "chemtrail" is actually about a group of people that want all of us to appraise the consequences of jet aircraft activity as normal, and they insist on using the labels that are associated with the phenomenon as normal, --NOT simply because it's the scientifically correct term, but because their intention is to convey a sense of normalcy over a matter that isn't quite normal at all. If it becomes widely known that jet aircraft were indeed being used for deploying geoengineering aerosols for a purpose such as solar radiation management, the consequences for this activity will no doubt again be labelled "normal" by this same group of people. They are already trying to preserve the term "geoengineering" as nothing but a matter of pure science when the truth is plans for open air testing near populated areas were already drawn in 2012. The people who insist there's no reason to be vigilant about what is happening in the sky and who come to quick conclusions over the matter in the absence of conclusive evidence are the same people who want to abolish the term "chemtrail" because of the power this label has to make more people look up into the sky and question what are all those jets doing up there.




posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: Petros312




The people who insist there's no reason to be vigilant about what is happening in the sky and who come to quick conclusions over the matter in the absence of conclusive evidence are the same people who want to abolish the term "chemtrail" because of the power this label has to make more people look up into the sky and question what are all those jets doing up there.


What are they doing up there...Flying such as they have been doing since the Wright brothers first flight, only now there are more of them.

Speaking of conclusive evidence...have any to back anything you claim?

And your other threads aren't it, so please don't link those to answer the question as they don't prove whatever it is you think they prove.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 11:47 AM
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Better yet please explain how you think something that is 35000 ft above your head is going to effect you more than say this...



or even this...




posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 12:07 PM
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Petros, you don't get to change the meaning of words. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

You know for a fact that not one of the debunkers here is claiming that aircraft exhaust is not pollution.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: Petros312

Can you explain in detail what is the difference in chemical composition between a chemtrail and a contrail?



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 01:44 PM
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originally posted by: anton74
Petros, you don't get to change the meaning of words...


And the "official" meaning of the word "chemtrail" is ?
--And the authority by which someone or group created this official definition was given to them how?

And the garmmarians who made it clear that we are all required to conform our speech to this "official" definition are whom?

Can you at least show me the DICTIONARY that contains the term "chemtrail" ?




Indeed, I have valid reasons (even academically valid) to use the term as I described in the first post above.

But go ahead debunkers. Post hundreds of links supposedly indicating some "consensus" over the term "chemtrail." You only demonstrate that you cannot see the fact that a contrail is still a "chemtrail" in many ways, but despite this debunkers want the term wiped off the face of the planet. That's very telling.




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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Petros312

Can you explain in detail what is the difference in chemical composition between a chemtrail and a contrail?


Do you not understand the premise of my original post? If you read it you would not need to ask this question.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: Petros312

contrails ARE normal - they are not natural - but they are normal

and further - thier composition is known

" chemtrails " is a fantasy term that includes what ever its proponents delusions dictates



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: Petros312

So you really are trying to redefine the meaning of words.



I must have missed the memo so can you explain who made you an authority to do such?



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 03:04 PM
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No matter. Not really worth the effort.
edit on 24-3-2015 by waynos because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: Petros312




And the garmmarians who made it clear that we are all required to conform our speech to this "official" definition are whom?


Those who started and continue to push the chemtrail hoax.

But the first one was Will Thomas the father of the chemtrail hoax.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: Petros312

note the usual denials and deflections
from the same people who call genocide and resource theft,
liberation from tyranny and bringing democracy.

who call self-defense
agression and thuggery

lots of wetiko disease apparent from the usual benthic life



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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So are we going to just redefine any kind of pollution as 'chemtrails? Or just the pollution caused by jets? Why not just call it pollution, if only to distinguish something real from an obvious hoax (chemtrails)?

But if you insist on naming the pollution left by jets, maybe you could call them Pollutrails or something. Or Dirtrails.. Garbalanes.. Think of something catchy

edit on 24-3-2015 by payt69 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Petros312

So you really are trying to redefine the meaning of words.



I must have missed the memo so can you explain who made you an authority to do such?



the OP denounces a wrong and you presume to accuse him of what he's denouncing?

guess youre a sith the rest of the time
or some really bad kitty food



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: Petros312



In Part 6 of a critical examination of chemtrail conspiracy theorists, we consider how these individuals have been accused of fabricating the word "chemtrail," which their opponents insist should be called a "contrail," as if the later term means something that is only "normal" and has no potential for harm whatsoever.

Not true. The white lines in the sky are called contrails because they must be. Whether there's a nefarious component added to any or all of them remains to be proven by those who claim they are anything other than what they're known to be. If tests showed that contrails are what we say they are how many CCTs do you think would accept the results? Maybe that will help you understand why the burden of proof is on the claimants to prove their claims.

Who has implied that contrails have no potential for harm whatsoever? I believe that's a mistaken inference by some that don't understand what is meant when people explain what contrails are.



It practically begs the question: Why is the term "chemtrail" considered by some to be such an inappropriate name for the trail of chemicals left behind by jet aircraft?

As has been said already, because the term means something. People have been trying to expand the definition and legitimize the term by conflating it with other things. People have resorted to saying things like, well, water is a chemical so they should be called "chemtrails". What's the purpose there? How weak is that sauce? At least have enough respect for the 'theory' to not lower the bar to the point a slug can be a world class high jumper.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 10:46 PM
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a reply to: Petros312


Can you at least show me the DICTIONARY that contains the term "chemtrail" ?

How about this one? www.oxforddictionaries.com...

A visible trail left in the sky by an aircraft and believed by some to consist of chemical or biological agents released as part of a covert operation.



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: Petros312

Wow, lots of words. Words everywhere. Such littel content. lets see, now NASA is an approved source. got it.

All contrails and clouds are chemtrails. Got it.

Contrails have lots of pollution in them. Got it. Wait......how much of that contrail is not water/ice? Please give me a percentage. Is it 20%, 5%, or more realistically like less than 1%. Being dishonest is so much a part of the chemtrail meme.
edit on 25-3-2015 by network dude because: bad spelr



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 03:19 AM
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Are pollution trails that we can't see chemtrails too?




posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 05:36 AM
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a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

Yes, every automobile leaves a chemtrail, all cows leave chemtrails when they fart. I don't think you comprehend how massive the conspiracy is. Just wow.



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 05:58 AM
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all cows leave chemtrails when they fart.


I think Taco Bell is a big supplier of chemtrails...at least it is for me when I eat there.



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