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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: ketsuko
Well in that case, Ukraine should also not become part of the EU, because there are people who have lived through `40/`45 and were part of one big Europe with Germany as leader.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Cobaltic1978
The only problem I have with the Ukraine situation is that there is a real agreement where we got the Ukrainians to hand over their nuclear deterrent in exchange for an agreement that we (the West) would defend them.
What are we supposed to do about that? Russia is pushing against that agreement, and while there are ethnic Russians in Ukraine who would like to be Russian, no one thought Germany had the right to annex countries to protect the ethnic Germans who lived in those places. And what about the ethnic Ukrainians who were abused terribly by Russia in the past and don't want anything to do with Russia now? "
Amen! Anyone who sees this as a new geopolitical event surely didn't read how the world Wars started, more importantly how WWII transpired with German justification for initial country grabs. (widely ignored by global community due to domestic economic powers, sound familiar?) the first reaction was the two sides of the argument forming alliances which is happening now, Italy and Germany are slowly siding with Russia, sound familiar? And in WWII the slow response created a reaction, not proactive diffusion. Unfortunately humanity tends to reflect a memory of a decade or generation, lessons are forgotten and those who remember are labeled paranoid weirdos. Questioning American decision making isn't patriotic, how could we be wrong, that would imply the Salem witch hunts and the red scare would be comparable to terrorism. Blasphemy!edit on 18-3-2015 by CriticalStinker because: Didn't format correctly