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originally posted by: Unity_99
By the way, these kinds of crimes, at the hands of children who are seriously, though temporally we can hope, in most cases they outgrow this with intervention at least, insane and fixated on satanic media or things, is 100%, underscored to infinity and beyond Society's and Adults fault.
1. Either those parents are practicing ritual dark occult satanists. But those groups are propped up by the paramilitary and shadow government and elites so it still wouldn't be the parents fault, as they would be insane kids themselves inside, probably long term generational abuse victims who are now full fledge sociopaths. Everyone who is massively abused by the elites ritual system, is judged as sane in their childhood. That moment when they were screaming for help inside, then suddenly they become sociopathic, that division line. They're judged on the screaming for help portion. Because if a child becomes a sociopath, alot of adults are responsible.
2. OR, its the media and some bad negligent parenting. But the media is put out be the same group Elite Satanic freaks as in point 1.
And many people call out to others to wake up and be responsible, see things. And thus form committees and end this reign of terror on this planet with unity.
In this case, society along with the elites, take responsibility, and its their refusal to be responsible awake and empowered citizens that even allows these cases to occur.
But the kids aren't guilty, they're kids.
originally posted by: Unity_99
a reply to: Missmissie173
The victim is a victim for sure, but these are still kids, not even teens at 12. Sorry man grow up. All children need to be helped to wellness, they're not adults. And emotions and playing on public outrage to change rules arbitrarily is ROGUE AND EVIL, they're satanists who want to harm and sacrifice children to the prison system.
I would personally want to see them broken out of prison and out of the country before seeing this crime and anyone anywhere that is so immature that thinks its ok to do this, don't even want that level of mentality on the same planet. Because that is not human. No adult thinks that way about children unless they are very immature in their understanding of children.
But the kids aren't guilty, they're kids.
I've had enough of their abuse of children. Yes, they're insane twerps and did something really bad, but they're kids.
originally posted by: Missmissie173
a reply to: Anyafaj
Not to mention, IF they got the full 65 years, it's essentially the death penalty, without saying the death penalty.
Well, the Victim has been "sentenced" to a virtual Death Penalty. It will be a miracle if the Victim can lead any kind of a normal life after this kind of trauma (include in that group her parents, family, close friends, the parents of the attempted murderers - the list of those affected is endless.) How will the Victim ever be able to trust anyone again?
I am not trying to discount the empathy and compassion you have for the two girls that committed this evil. I bet you are a very good, caring person. It is natural for us humans to try and fix things, but, I don't see any fixing these two. We have no frame of reference for "fixing" this.
Why do we all love kids so much - because for the most part they are innocent and pure. The two would be killers, not so much - if they were ever innocent and/or pure.
No, I am sure a lifetime in jail is not the answer, but life in a Psych hospital/facility? Studied like a lab rat? ALL THE THERAPY in the World won't solve the problems these two have... I admit I am clueless for an answer, as I feel are most of us.
Maybe an Exorcist - just (half) kidding.
Thanks OP for a very thought provoking thread!
originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: Unity_99
But the kids aren't guilty, they're kids.
At what age are they no longer 'just kids' and can be thought of as guilty then?
18? Can you present a strong argument that there is always some fundamental shift in a persons psyche from 17 to 18 that entails prior to turning 18 they are 'just kids' and don't understand their actions and the consequences of them.
I've had enough of their abuse of children. Yes, they're insane twerps and did something really bad, but they're kids.
That really bad something was the abuse of a child. Extreme abuse...
originally posted by: ItCameFromOuterSpace
a reply to: Anyafaj
If the Manson kids have to spend the rest of their lives in jail then why not these little psychos?
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
while it is impossible to actually have some arbitrary "age of accountability" that is a one size fit all number, one thing is certain: the kind of mind it takes to buy into fiction like Slenderman to this point is obviously not a discerning, adult mind.
while it is impossible to actually have some arbitrary "age of accountability" that is a one size fit all number
one thing is certain: the kind of mind it takes to buy into fiction like Slenderman to this point is obviously not a discerning, adult mind.
Agreed. This is also why it's up to the judges discretion if the minor should be tried as an adult in homicide cases, and they are not automatically tried as such. Unlike some of the posters here who say they should always be tried one way and not the other.
but your argument fails..
and once the line has been drawn we can't just arbitrarily move it..
originally posted by: hutch622
In what mad world is it right to try a 12 and a 13 year old as adults.
I am not sure i agree totally . By the age of 12 i am pretty sure that my moral compass was set pretty accurately . Did i make mistakes , yes certainly but little things . I can not ever remember murder being brought up in conversation except if we were discussing one that had already been committed . As for slender man , pretty poor pre conceived excuse if you ask me . Lock them up , melt the keys .
i still feel my opinion should sum it up on what should be done tothese kids can you agree maybe?
originally posted by: babybunnies
Good. Adult crimes need adult punishments, even when committed by children.