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George Knapp and Channel 8 in Las Vegas look at Chemtrails (ATS included)...

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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Outstanding post.
That's the way you put utter non sense in it's proper place.




posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I'm normally in accordance with you Charlie but not here.

Your assertion is flawed. You are usually more logical than this mate!

Those "tens of thousands" who are allegedly involved in the chemtrail farce would have to be all vetted to make sure that they all have the same depopulation, or climate engineering views, and that they would all remain silent...for the rest of their lives? I'm not buying that for a second, that is an impossibility in terms of the sheer number of individuals, the diversity of their skill sets, their cultural diversity and so on.

Remember that this supposed ongoing operation has been in effect since the late '90s, that would mean hundreds of thousands of people from all over the world have been involved, and not one credible witness has ever come forward....ever.

The biggest logistical undertaking in human history, and nobody has come forward? All these people and not one conscience among them, not one who has had his/her doubts.....yeah right.

I see that ISIS are also now becoming a 'metaphorical' equivalent to the Nazis of WW2.



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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:30 AM
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lol @ the crazy that found aluminium in his daughters hair.
Simply changing shampoo from Slesen Blue would fix that.

And Mark you are a natural on screen.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: seabhac-rua

All depends on the bigger picture in my opinion...
Doubts about depopulation is subjective really.

Millions of Masons through history...

No insider information leaked that they do not want to be made public.

Maybe that's a false equivalency...


9/11, for people don't believe the official story...
Not one credible insider?


So do we automatically rule it out?




Anyhow...



I can take on board the point you've made for sure...


But as of yet, participant numbers is not what convinces me that chemtrails are exaggerated.
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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: Springer

I simply ask myself, is there any amount of money that
could cause me to poison the same air I breath, if I were
pilot? While that doesn't speak for everyone I think it does
speak for those with the brains to fly. No one is knowingly
going to do such a thing.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:10 AM
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Where is the link to the mass spectrometry analysis from the samples they collected?



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Dabrazzo

You don't try to prove a universal negative. Any negative test results will be explained by "That was just a contrail". It's up to the believers to provide the evidence for their beliefs.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Springer

I simply ask myself, is there any amount of money that
could cause me to poison the same air I breath, if I were
pilot? While that doesn't speak for everyone I think it does
speak for those with the brains to fly. No one is knowingly
going to do such a thing.



Providing there isn't an antidote to what is allegedly being used to poison the air, maybe.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

And that antidote is also made available to every single blood relative and good friend that you have, and everyone else involved's friends and family too. With every single blood relative and friend of everyone else that they care about also included so they don't blab, and so on. The 'antidote' theory is just too, too silly.
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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: waynos

Silly maybe...

I still think your rebuttal is also subjective imo...

Bare in mind I do not believe chemtrails are what we are told by either side...
But for arguments sake...

You need to think like "them"...
& see the bigger picture "they" see...
The "greater good" clouding their judgement...


You're thinking like an empath...
Giving a human identity to someone who would in fact depopulate the planet...



Hypothetical analogy (if you'll indulge me);

You have a Nuclear Bunker that can hold 5 people...
You haven't discussed this with anyone (or have either way)...
Who do you select to go with you...
Thinking like "them"...
A small bunker because despite the ideology you have you're a regular Joe in every other sense...
Not a billionaire who'll push the buttons...
So how does sharing that antidote around sound now?



Personally I think there is much more solid reasons not to believe the depopulation plan than high numbers or worrying who's poisoned...

Cost & Resources mainly...
I couldn't even begin to mathematically gauge how much it would cost to poison most of the planet with Airplanes...

Overall efficiency being another one...
There is much simpler effective ways to get rid of a high percentage of the World population...



imo.


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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

What, in your opinion, is valid with the "chemtrail" theory?



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: network dude

We had this discussion previously network, if I recall...


I believe it to be an immunity build up, small distribution of chemicals at safe intervals...
Sort of like a forced evolutionary process.

I feel the same about microwaves as well!



*These are the conclusions you come to when you hear voices for 23 years*



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Ah, to be 23. Charlie, when you get to 46, you wake up and become enthralled with the revelation that you can remember your name.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: network dude



Well I'm actually 27, the first 4 of those years were free of voices.


46 is a plucky young age, you're too hard on yourself!



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: waynos

Silly maybe...

I still think your rebuttal is also subjective imo...

Bare in mind I do not believe chemtrails are what we are told by either side...
But for arguments sake...

You need to think like "them"...
& see the bigger picture "they" see...
The "greater good" clouding their judgement...


No, you are projecting your own opinion on what they think like, by necessity, because you don't know who they are. This doesn't make you more right then me. You are also treating this mythological "them" as an amorphous mass, with no account of any individual conscience. This is why you are able to convince yourself that total secrecy with hundreds of thousands of people involved over decades is possible. Humanity is far more complex than that, to whit....




You're thinking like an empath...
Giving a human identity to someone who would in fact depopulate the planet...


But they ARE human, unless you subscribe to bat# crazy alien hypotheses. Even Mr A Hitler loved his niece and his sister as well as his girlfriend and his dogs. He happily sent millions to their deaths, but was tender and loving to them, this is evidence of the complexity of the human condition.

You on the other hand, while not believing, seem to be arguing that pilots, mechanics, logistical managers etc et al, are uncaring, unfeeling psychopaths. I think you are stretching logic too far.




Hypothetical analogy (if you'll indulge me);

You have a Nuclear Bunker that can hold 5 people...
You haven't discussed this with anyone (or have either way)...
Who do you select to go with you...
Thinking like "them"...
A small bunker because despite the ideology you have you're a regular Joe in every other sense...
Not a billionaire who'll push the buttons...
So how does sharing that antidote around sound now?


Except the analogy isn't hiding from a nuclear attack, it's STARTING one, with half a million people witnessing it and choosing to say nothing.




Personally I think there is much more solid reasons not to believe the depopulation plan than high numbers or worrying who's poisoned...

Cost & Resources mainly...
I couldn't even begin to mathematically gauge how much it would cost to poison most of the planet with Airplanes...

Overall efficiency being another one...
There is much simpler effective ways to get rid of a high percentage of the World population...



imo.



That is just one good reason why the idea of planes spraying chemtrails is crap. There are many others, plus a total lack of evidence or analysis plus the fact that all the material evidence put forward is faked or misrepresented.

One of the best though is to just calculate the volume of a contrail 200 miles long by 200ft wide and try to come with a plane that could carry enough material to make it. Then maybe try to come with a chemical that can reproduce itself whilst floating in the sky to form a wide blanket of cover, just like a cloud, but isn't a cloud.

There is no level of scrutiny the chemtrail meme doesn't fail on .



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 09:00 PM
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Nice. I'm always looking for main stream videos on this stuff. Otherwise my family members think its just crazy bloggers with tin foil hats. Go figure! If they could only take the blinders off for a few minutes.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs




Providing there isn't an antidote to what is allegedly being used to poison the air, maybe.


Like?



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:58 PM
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a reply to: randyvs

The only antidote I've ever heard of to wicked poison is death...



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 07:37 AM
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a reply to: waynos

I said "imo"...

Never once said I'm more right than you either.


You also misunderstood the analogy you were in on it, not anticipating.

Doesn't matter.



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: Springer

Ah yes, the same antidote Patrick Henry thought so much of in
his all time speech against tyranny. A universal cure all indeed.
Kinda like duct tape! LMAO


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