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God's Law according to Jesus - GIVING to others

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posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
Wonder why churches all go for tax free status then...
Seems if they are all about helping people and taxes go to just that, they would be all about it.


Do you know how many faith based organizations are really using church funds to help people?

The taxes are to help people? Entitlement and subservience to the government?




posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 08:47 PM
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They wanted separation of church and state and you are exactly what the result of that was.

Yes, if you have land the government will take it from you. If you inherit land, the government will tax you for that or take it from you.

That's the secular government that allows the most defenseless people to suffer the most. Right here in Indiana, elderly people who paid into the system were one dollar over the new allowance and lost their home health care and forced into nursing homes.

You want to know something ironic...people are screaming for Socialism..and yet the Nazis were National SOCIALISM. That's what the party name was. And the National Socialists fought a war against the Communists, that were based in Socialism...ironic, isn't it. The Russians called them Fascists...ironic, isn't it.

I was replying to OpinionatedB, I must have hit reply instead.


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posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: WarminIndy

I agree with what you are saying, most definitely.. and we are as a nation turning into the exact same kind of state..which is scarey when you think about it.

Thing is, most church organizations don't help people.. the one's that do, do it 100%, but they are fewer by far than the one's who don't. The wealthiest churches help no one but themselves.. and they help themselves to bigger community centers and bigger churches and larger salaries.. but don't help the community at all.

Most people think the state has programs for people like me.. and don't realize those programs are refusing to help people in real need and leaving people high and dry with no where to turn.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: WarminIndy




Do you know how many faith based organizations are really using church funds to help people?


Do you know how many would rather use it to build a mega church?

And yes taxes help people, put the stigma on it all you want.
Seems very appropriate.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: WarminIndy

So I guess the nordic countries are just a bunch of no good Nazi's.

Or was your point to attach nazis with socialism?

ETA: Deleted part cause I said it wrong
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posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: WarminIndy




Do you know how many faith based organizations are really using church funds to help people?


Do you know how many would rather use it to build a mega church?

And yes taxes help people, put the stigma on it all you want.
Seems very appropriate.


Yes, I do know. And yes, WarminIndy will speak against it.

You can bet your bottom dollar on that. WarminIndy doesn't discriminate, WarminIndy is an equal opportunity criticizer.

Which taxes have helped you? The Lottery tax that pays only 10% to schools, funnelling the rest into administrative fees? The highway use surtax that you pay when you buy your car or get gasoline? The Inspection tax that forces you to pay taxes on top of the cost of the inspection? The EPA tax that gathers a whole lot of money to keep polluting cars on the road but does not allow Tesla to manufacture cars? The Farm Subsidy Bill that forces farmers to grow crops and then not sell it?

What is helping you?



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: WarminIndy

So I guess the nordic countries are just a bunch of no good Nazi's.

Or was your point to attach nazis with socialism?

ETA: Deleted part cause I said it wrong


Hey, I'm just pointing out the name of the party...National Socialism. I didn't name it. Read the history, it was called NATIONAL SOCIALISM. Ironic, isn't it.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: WarminIndy

Cool so just want to cherry pick some?

I am not saying there is not some bad taxes out there that could go away, but there are people that fall on hard times and use the welfare system that are not abusers of it.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: WarminIndy

Cool so just want to cherry pick some?

I am not saying there is not some bad taxes out there that could go away, but there are people that fall on hard times and use the welfare system that are not abusers of it.





Did I say there were all abusers of it?

How much time do you have to go through all the taxes, visible and invisible?



posted on Jan, 31 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: WarminIndy

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: arpgme

Beautifully put, thank you and god bless you.
God gave enough for this world to be a paradise but man has turned it into a hell, only by following christ can they come to the truth.


Only by KNOWING Christ can one come to the truth.

Ye shall KNOW the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Unless you KNOW the One who is Truth, you can't know truth, all you have is an idea of truth.

Why don't people understand that they can KNOW the Eternal, Living Christ right now?

He is alive as we speak.


I see, you do not really know me so you make a judgement based perhaps on some of the thing's I say on other thread's, maybe you are right and maybe you are wrong in that but I do know that christ is there and he is in every soul that truly believe's in him, I do have little faith though that is true and Knowing and having faith are two completely different thing's, I can not say I love god as I once did as since something very bad happened to myself I have no emotion's that I can actually feel but I can tell you that I used to with all my heart.
Remember this a shepherd keep's his flock together, he will leave them when he know's they are secure to find the missing one but he has to be careful as there are always wolves prowling and the worst of these are those that were the sheep's clothing, so for the one on it's own it is twice as bad.
Sorry for the double post earlier I am in a rural area on a dongle duct taped to a wooden pole over the bungalow and the extension cable out of the window is damaged to the wind keeps' knocking my connection down ever few second's so that then I have to reconnect.

You know he is there, I know he is there, maybe you go to the sacrement every other day but when you are poor it is actually embarrasing when the collection dish come's around and this makes the whole thing a farce as that is not what christ intended, do good work's in secret not to gain other's appreciation or you will have had your reward on earth, but doing them in secret your father in heaven know's what you have done and will reward you, not the exact sequence of word's but he said this so how much more does he value those who do good work's in secret not expecting or wanting any reward.

If you have two coat's and your brother has non then give unto him the one you are not using.
It is harder for a rich man to enter heaven than a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, but not impossible were god is concerned.
Sell all you own, give to the poor and follow me.
Even the bird's have there place to rest but the son of man has no where to lay his head.
Concern yourself not with the rich for they have had there reward on earth
The last shall be first and the first shall be last.

Compared to these poor soul's I am a rich man and because of ill health I have zero income and am soon to lose this connection as I can no longer pay for it under the british Tory government's anti christian policy's.

The poor, the homeless, the needy - these are the kingdom of God, they who serve will be served and they who are served shall serve.

Do you KNOW god, or do you LISTEN to christ in his own word's he never sent the rich away when they had enough faith and he did say the poor shall always be with us, the poor in spirit and the poor in earthly wealth also, being poor does not entitle someone to heaven they have to believe in christ also but being rich and believing in christ also does not entitle them to heaven, the poor widow who put her last penny's into the temple coffer when she had nothing touched christs heart so much he pointed out that she had given more in the sight of god than all the rich hypocrite's.
I am a humble sinner battling my own demons and more often than not seeking christs help and I know this, even if he does not help me I still find my way back to him as he is all I have.



posted on Jan, 31 2015 @ 02:00 PM
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This thread is not about Nazism or whether or not God is Merciful or revengful, rather this is about how to fulfill God's Law:

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.\" - Matthew 7:12 Jesus Christ \

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.\" - Galatians 5:14 Paul



posted on Jan, 31 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Well, I only replied on that comment. Sorry about your cable connection.

I am not Catholic so I don't go to sacraments. I am sorry you live in the United Kingdom, but since Darwin came along, many people bought into secularism and even your government buried Darwin in a religious place. Ironic, isn't it?

I do know God, and I know that God also said that a man should earn his bread by the sweat of his brow. That hasn't changed. So you are going through a moment of doubt, everyone has those points. But it isn't helpful if you look at the rich with that type of veiled jealousy, because they have money. You can still be blessed in your life without having to knock the rich man off his camel.

That's the fault of Christians to believe blessings are always monetary. Remember, Jesus said "there were many poor widows in Elijah's day but he didn't visit them all". As long as you are willing to make that bread with that little bit of flour and oil when the Prophet of Prophets asks of you, then you will be blessed.

Have faith, even if it is as small as a mustard seed. Even then, you can speak to the mountains or calm the sea. I'm a disabled American also, but have been blessed as I am not homeless and have free Wifi. But had I never had faith, maybe I would be worse than this.

The rich aren't any more hypocrites than the poor.



posted on Jan, 31 2015 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: arpgme
This thread is not about Nazism or whether or not God is Merciful or revengful, rather this is about how to fulfill God's Law:

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.\" - Matthew 7:12 Jesus Christ \

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.\" - Galatians 5:14 Paul



Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: 33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. 34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.



See, you missed something..

The FIRST commandment...Shema Y'Israel, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God first.

As Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness and asked Jesus to bow down and worship him, Jesus said "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and Him only shalt thou serve".

Jesus said on these two hang ALL the law and the prophets, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". Don't preach halfway, give us the whole megillah.

Unless you worship God and serve Him only, then it is impossible to love your neighbor as yourself. That's the point Jesus made. Hear Oh Israel.



posted on Jan, 31 2015 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: WarminIndy

If you obey his command of love thy neighbour as thyself then you do love God or you wouldn't be obeying it.

"For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and ifthere be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." - Romans 13:9



posted on Jan, 31 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: WarminIndy

Oh I am not at all jealous of the rich, my mother is Lady hallworth, robbed of an inheritance that was so large when he was the MP (Member of Parliament) for west lancashire Mr Ken Hind called her into the office one day shortly before he had to vacate the office as he knew he was going to lose the by election, "I am sorry but it is that much money were this much money is concerned there is no gentleman above board, I am afraid I can not help you anymore" he said, he also happened to be a barrister so had checked it out, when my mother first went to see him he was under the impression he had already met her but my mother was never in receipt of her inheritance and a fake Duke is using her title so if you like you may call me a ducal prince not that I am keen on that kind of hypocrisy as all so called nobility are essentially thieves or the descendant's of such thieves and murderer's.

The sweat of one's own brow, here is a point how then are they entitled to the sweat of Christ's brow?.

Blessing's are not monatery at all, money is a curse when it is hoarded, "A rich man gathered all his wealth into a barn to store it up but then he died, Who then get's his wealth"

"Man does not live by bread alone but by every word of God".

You know the pharisee and Saducee both tried to debate with christ but both got there eye wiped to coin an english phrase, another point you miss is how he spoke of the priests and those who claimed to be righteous but were not, he simply did not like them calling them hypocrit's, he never liked the priests who made a big thing out of showing how pious they were but indeed the church and not only the Catholic or Anglican church's were all polluted by these people.

No christ went the pub and sat with the worst as at least they were not hypocrite's.

As for Sacremental ceremony you might like to know that the Anglican church and by dint of that all it's offshoot's including the methodist have Sacrement but the more common term in all including the catholic is Mass as you know.

The born again Christian's whom I was once a member of and since I am still a christian maybe still am are the one's who have tried to become even more pure than the protestant church as you also know.

Like I said I have ill health so as for sweat let me see, I used to work from 06.00 to 22.30 five day's a week and sometime's on the saturday as well, I also usually worked the sunday making my working very long indeed, I used to bleed without cuts to my feet sweating blood into my shoes from standing to long and the pain was excruciating so one thing I god forgive me I acutally hate is conceited attitude's of idiot's who think every poor person is a sherker.

I later worked in security for many year's as the former Job working for a japanese company had taken it out of me too much, the country under a labour government also later brought in working time regulations to minimize long hours as I was far from the only one, I have qualifications but they are electronic engineering and I am afraid our industry along with most of the job's I was qualified for left his country in droves through the 1980s on rich fat little men's whim's and greed to exploit the poor of asia who would work for a bowl of rice a day back then.

And like I say I am actually aristocracy but the poor kind, though legally if we had justice in the UK not only would non of the criminals who now run our government and bank's be in place but I would undoubtedly be uber rich, My mother inherited among other things race courses, tattershall's bloodstock's etc but they have bured the history along with the recent Lord and Lady Tattershall my mother's family and beneficiary's, she even had one police officer trying to say that it was becaue Elizabeth tattershall felt sorry for her and she had no claim to it anyway until my mother explained how we are related and he then appologized saying "I'm sorry it's terrible what we have done to you", we were told it was the british hierarchy that have robbed my mother and Ken Hind actually said to her "It is a group of people who have simply Taken your property and money, it is fraud and a criminal offence" this was before he took a reimbursement and said that about there being no gentleman above board.

So you were saying I am jealous eh, Veiled, if I was jealous I would say so no I am angry at injustice and corruption, I hate false christian's who think they are more christian than decent hard working people who would give there last penny and who by the way are far richer in other way's such as family and community and of course the love of God.

Here is another point, You are disabled My mother is disabled but though america has traditionally been far harsher on it's poor it also still has many people who truly love god and I know you are one so please forgive my if I got a little annoyed, by the way the obvious answer is that God has blessed us as we have not got that money and wealth so can not be guilt of not sharing it.

It is true what I say about the geneological aristocracy, they are the descendant's or murderer's, adulterer's, theives and criminal's so I am not proud of that fact, what is more My ancestor Lord Tattershall founded Tattershall bloodstock's in campden london, that is ostencibly also called the ring's and is a horse auctioneers specializing in race horses, most race courses had a Tattershall stand and of course Gambling is Blood money that has wrecked a very great many live's, My ancestor also funded the building of Liverpool's first Proper dock after the liverpool corporation approached him for the money to turn liverpool into a new port as manchester needed a port, of course the worst thing's happened at liverpool dock's and the slave hook's are still there in some of the buildings cellars' to this day, I don't know if my family were involved and god know's I hope not but they were involved in the dock.

The last generations were philanthropic and decent god fearing anglican people, my mother was baptized her relative's Lord and Lady Tattershall her godparent's in St Luke's a church in liverpool that was later bombed out during the war and left as a monument, many people were praying in the church when the german bomb hit and were killed.

God bless you I am sorry I get blinkered sometime's, like I say my mother is disable's yet she had worked all her life, she also brought nine of us into this world despite only having half a hip bone, you would never believe half of my mother's story if I was qualified to tell it but needless to say she is an indomitable 82 year old lady who has never given up and never will.
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posted on Jan, 31 2015 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: arpgme
a reply to: WarminIndy

If you obey his command of love thy neighbour as thyself then you do love God or you wouldn't be obeying it.

"For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and ifthere be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." - Romans 13:9


Jesus would have said that first..but He didn't.

Preach the whole megillah or none at all.

The commandments are

1: Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.
2: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images to bow down to them.
3: Thou shalt not take the Lord Thy God's name in vain.
4: Thou shalt remember the Sabbath, to keep it holy
5: Thou shalt honor thy mother and thy father.
6: Thou shalt not kill.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8: Thou shalt not steal.
9: Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
10: Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor anything of thy neighbor.

The fifth is the first with promise.

Paul said that if you are obligated to one, you are obligated to them all. That means that when you post one verse of commandment, you are obligated to all of them. Therefore, you must preach the same God that Jesus preached, first, because loving thy neighbor cannot be done without loving God first. You know this.



posted on Jan, 31 2015 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: WarminIndy

Oh I am not at all jealous of the rich, my mother is Lady hallworth, robbed of an inheritance that was so large when he was the MP (Member of Parliament) for west lancashire Mr Ken Hind called her into the office one day shortly before he had to vacate the office as he knew he was going to lose the by election, "I am sorry but it is that much money were this much money is concerned there is no gentleman above board, I am afraid I can not help you anymore" he said, he also happened to be a barrister so had checked it out, when my mother first went to see him he was under the impression he had already met her but my mother was never in receipt of her inheritance and a fake Duke is using her title so if you like you may call me a ducal prince not that I am keen on that kind of hypocrisy as all so called nobility are essentially thieves or the descendant's of such thieves and murderer's.

The sweat of one's own brow, here is a point how then are they entitled to the sweat of Christ's brow?.

Blessing's are not monatery at all, money is a curse when it is hoarded, "A rich man gathered all his wealth into a barn to store it up but then he died, Who then get's his wealth"

"Man does not live by bread alone but by every word of God".

You know the pharisee and Saducee both tried to debate with christ but both got there eye wiped to coin an english phrase, another point you miss is how he spoke of the priests and those who claimed to be righteous but were not, he simply did not like them calling them hypocrit's, he never liked the priests who made a big thing out of showing how pious they were but indeed the church and not only the Catholic or Anglican church's were all polluted by these people.

No christ went the pub and sat with the worst as at least they were not hypocrite's.

As for Sacremental ceremony you might like to know that the Anglican church and by dint of that all it's offshoot's including the methodist have Sacrement but the more common term in all including the catholic is Mass as you know.

The born again Christian's whom I was once a member of and since I am still a christian maybe still am are the one's who have tried to become even more pure than the protestant church as you also know.

Like I said I have ill health so as for sweat let me see, I used to work from 06.00 to 22.30 five day's a week and sometime's on the saturday as well, I also usually worked the sunday making my working very long indeed, I used to bleed without cuts to my feet sweating blood into my shoes from standing to long and the pain was excruciating so one thing I god forgive me I acutally hate is conceited attitude's of idiot's who think every poor person is a sherker.

I later worked in security for many year's as the former Job working for a japanese company had taken it out of me too much, the country under a labout government also later brought in working time regulations to minimize long hours as I was far from the only one, I have qualifications but they are electronic engineering and I am afraid our industry along with most of the job's I was qualified for left his country in droves through the 1980s on rich fat little men's whim's and greed to exploit the poor of asia who would work for a bowl of rice a day back then.

And like I say I am actually aristocracy but the poor kind, though legally if we had justice in the UK not only would non of the criminals who now run our government and bank's be in place but I would undoubtedly be uber rich, My mother inherited among other things race courses, tattershall's bloodstock's etc but they have bured the history along with the recent Lord and Lady Tattershall my mother's family and beneficiary's, she even had one police officer trying to say that it was becaue Elizabeth tattershall felt sorry for her and she had no claim to it anyway until my mother explained how we are related and he then appologized saying "I'm sorry it's terrible what we have done to you", we were told it was the british hierarchy that have robbed my mother and Ken Hind actually said to her "It is a group of people who have simply Taken your property and money, it is fraud and a criminal offence" this was before he took a reimbursement and said that about there being no gentleman above board.

So you were saying I am jealous eh, Veiled, if I was jealous I would say so no I am angry at injustice and corruption, I hate false christian's who think they are more christian than decent hard working people who would give there last penny and who by the way are far richer in other way's such as family and community and of course the love of God.


I really don't know how your royal and noble classes are set up. But you are a "ducal prince"? I have no idea what that means, remember that as an American, I don't have any obligation to find that important, but sorry if you have been mistreated in any way because of that.

I'm a disabled person as well, so I do understand your issues when it comes to that. What I cannot escape noticing is that as the UK becomes overwhelmed now with so many immigrants and having to take care of the overly stretched population and the fact that you guys do import certain services while exporting others, and that my cousins who live in Doncaster are very upset over the fact that so many people die in the winter..do you think it could be the culmination of so many years of that noble pyramid scheme of the middle class still being a social caste that now has no more funding from the lower base of the pyramid?

I think that the nobility there is a pyramid scheme, but I am not sure as I am American. Seems to me that they are trying to introvertly and discreetly allow a large portion of your population to die off. But that's my opinion.

I don't know what a ducal prince is, so as far as us on ATS, I can only know you as Labtech and that is how I will address you, as a fellow of equal status. I believe that God is no respecter of persons, and I am a Friend, so these sacraments, I am sure many people do still take them above all else as most important, but sacraments are for the sacramental at heart.



posted on Jan, 31 2015 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: WarminIndy

Actually, love thy neighbour as thyself fulfills the entire law and to love God is to obey his law so in reality His law is One as he is One.

The Way is narrow. It's simple. Wide is the path that leads to destruction.


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posted on Jan, 31 2015 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: WarminIndy

I have altered it a slightly since then Warmindy but regardless anyway they are a bunck of hypocritical old money school tie's and I firmly believe in a meritocracy but think it need's to run in line with true christian moral code and ethical law's.

I was Joking about the Ducal Prince though technically it is correct and I am the youngest anyway but a Duke or duchess is essentially a king or queen with the queen in london being the high-queen so there children were princess and prince etc, it's all a pile of hypocritical mumbo jumbo cods-wallop if you ask me though as a man is a man and a woman is a woman as simple as that, still I would have had a nice membership card and all of that don't you know, ahh ha well old chap (sorry I am no good with emoticons but would place one that meant doolally - crazy there if there was one).

And anyway as a christian there is only one king is there not.

It is not the immigrant's fault but the fault of weak government policy's, other country's would were absorbing them is not possible shelter and feed them until they could be sent back home but it is now common for the immigrant's to burn there passport's as well as lying about there age claiming to be under 18 even when they are sometime's obviously over 30.

As a christian there are thing's that as a britain clash for me, obviously we should care but when you are taking it out of your own people for the sake of illegal immigration then there is a serious problem somewhere and ethic's are breaking down in practice as a result.

Under the conservative Coalition led government, (Labour actually had slightly more votes than the conservative but the Liberal party led by David Camerons Classmate Nick Clegg then joined with the conservatives due to Mr Clegg's personal dislike of Gordon Brown (In truth no one liked him but most of us dreaded a bunch of hooray harrys running the country and that is exactly what we got) used this as an excuse to reduce payment to government funded social housing, they brought in a police of paying less for single people in two bedroom accomodation meaning many people are now homeless etc, this was a veiled policy as the CBI (Confederation of British Business an unelected group of wealthy business men pulling the strings on the government) wanted the space for young foreign worker's, they saw the rising prices in asia as far as wage's were concerned and our own falling wealth making lower wage here more acceptable so they wanted to free up accomodation at the cost of the taxpayer so they hijacked the social housing using this so called Bedroom tax as this policy has become known.

They have also reduced the care budget and started to privatise our once world famous national health service and people are sick and tired over her of hearing David Cameron constantly winging that there are too many old folk's, it is like he wants them dead or something.

We used to be a christian country but today we are a morally failing and increasing unethical and corrupt nation I am sad to say, now usually this is were a flag waving ex pat steps in and tries to take the simple fact's apart.

A point of fact is that the Tory partys so called reforms are Right wing idiologically driven reversal's of older reforms that made it possible for the working class to survive into there eighty's and that in a nut shell is what is wrong with the tory party, cameron has offered a referendum on european membership but has spent the better part of his term then trying to conving us why we should stay in the EU with all it's immigration problem's etc as it is good for the 0.001% including his friend's whom are making a financial killing off of it, he is actually not a patrotic prime minister and the alternative mr milliband does not inspire me with any confidence either..

The church's both Anglican and Catholic have criticized this government for it's so called reforms which I pointed out are Reform Reversals not Reform's at all and today in one of the richest nations on the planet we have people starving on the street's and having to go to food bank's, the Department for Work and Pensions which is now under the cruel and misguided direction of Lian Duncan Smith a politician whom brags' about his Japanese ancestor and lied about his education having failed his degree as well as having been ousted himself when he was the leader of the tory party, is now responsible for multiple death's through poverty driven suicide and other poverty related issues.

Like most of the western world we did have a problem with drug's and those that claimed benefit who were also drug taker's, well that could have been adressed by denying only those claiment's benefit's and offering them places in secure drug rehabilitation clinic's but they were never interested in addressing the real issues only in formulating a plan to reverse reforms that are against there anti christian darwinian belief's.

There is in short one type of creature you are unlikely to see too many of in heaven and that is the ruling politician.

We have been lucky historically in this country though and one of the greated reformist politicians in history was Benjamin Disraeli a european Jewish immigrant in the victorian era whom so loved the British he converted to Anglicanism and eventually became a Liberal Peer, he abolished the work houses were poor were kept as prisoners without trial in slave conditions, he brought in state education for the poor children etc.

So another point the East End of london has or rather a massive ethnic Italian population, They are British but they are or were rather of Italian origin, Britain was the feed from europe to america and we are not exactly a single race but are very mixed, immigration is ok but it has to be controlled and kept at a sustainable rate which it is not.

Anyway it is 21.32 here so Goodnight and Godbless.

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posted on Jan, 31 2015 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: arpgme
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Actually, love thy neighbour as thyself fulfills the entire law and to love God is to obey his law so in reality His law is One as he is One.

The Way is narrow. It's simple. Wide is the path that leads to destruction.




Isaiah 35:8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.


That narrow way is the way of holiness.


Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:



1 Chronicles 16:29 Give unto the Lord the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come before him: worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness.


Without holiness, no man shall see the Lord. Worship the Lord in the way of holiness, because holiness is that narrow way.


1 Thessalonians 4:7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.


Is loving thy neighbor what brings you into holiness? Without holiness, no man shall see the Lord.



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