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originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: ZetaRediculian
Have you read all the posts? At least one quite boisterous member is more than hinting at it. Interesting that the thread is near 90 flags, but only a handful of members have commented. The OP is half the first page with several supporting links to read. 90 people read all that, flagged, then buggered off without comment? Ok, then.
Again, I think the whole theory is comical.
...the entire modern history of UFO research.
originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
Then we noticed that the sound quality was weird, not open desert area but more muffled like inside a building. Someone commented on it, then one guy said 'where did the moon and stars go', and we all looked up at this flat black area right overhead, and that's when the lights came on. And it went up slowly until you could sort of see the outline of it against the stars, and it went thataway, zip! No sonic boom, nothing. We went back in, and everyone was looking at us and grinning before we said anything. Nothing was mentioned about it at all, though. Contractor harassment, I tell ya.
Conclusion: something was coupling energy into the plants in the form of heat (as one of the respondents to my first post actually stated). Therefore the idea of a beam weapon is indeed one of the scenarios to consider.
The crop circles are close to ancient megalithic sites, which excites the curiosity of New Age tourists from America, but they are even closer to the most highly classified military electronics labs in Britain. In fact the roads to some of the fields run between two high fences behind which defense companies are doing research, and Army helicopters routinely patrol the area.
originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: mirageman
So, what exactly is this? What's being said? That 70 years of carefully documented UFO sightings are nothing more than a bunch of radar tricks? Come on. I'm not even thinking about buying that.
What this looks like to me is a pathetic attempt to erase or explain away thousands and thousands of eyewitness (not simply radar) sightings.
Simply and absolutely:
The present day CIA seems to want to take the credit for UFO sightings of the 1950s and 1960s by blaming them on the U2 and Oxcart programs. But were they really responsible for the DC Sightings in 1952, and later incidents over England before Project Palladium had officially began?
I have no doubt that CIA/military activity has probably accounted for ‘some’ UFO reports down the years. Yet there is also the issue of how eye witness sightings can be explained.
In the Revisiting the 1952 Washington DC UFO Flap thread I did discuss a theory that, in certain weather, radar also caused ‘plasma’ in the atmosphere. Perhaps the two things in conjunction were being harnessed to create ‘UFOs’?
However I think we have to consider that ‘Project Palladium’ appeared in the 1960s. I could not find a direct reference to any ability to create “visual” phenomenon to accompany these false radar signals. Nor is there any indication that ‘tests’ were made during the 1950s prior to Palladium being implemented, let alone over Washington in 1952.
So once again we have the fingers of the intel boys firmly digging into another UFO pie and claiming ‘it was us!’. At other times the ET angle is encouraged, discouraged and debunked with equal measure.
So the Cold War has ended but it seems ‘the game’ continues..........
originally posted by: Agnost
Bedlam, just for the record, to see whether I got this straight: it were these AFB guys who were playing tricks on you?
originally posted by: radkrish
So the CIA is capable of producing certain aspects of the phenomenon? Wonder what the CIA were doing during the sightings of other parts of the globe..oh yeah..the CIA faked that in Mexico and Brazil too. Come on..lets cheer for the CIA bandwagon from here on!! The CIA also produced the loch ness monster, big foot sightings. They didn't want to miss any to make themselves look vulnerable. They mean it.