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originally posted by: rupertg
“Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool.”
― Mark Twain
originally posted by: Greven
It's an interesting thing - did he lie originally?
Or did the rift between his father and his family provoke this claim?
originally posted by: olaru12
It's this kind of thing that makes me want to hoist the BS flag. Trusting Christians just got a lot harder.
originally posted by: ziplock9000
Wow, I like how you think the rational explanation is that he did go to heaven and see angels and that the 'conspiracy' is that it's not true.
some people are baffling!
originally posted by: Eladria
a reply to: Lolliek
You can assure your stepmom that the afterlife is very real.
The way you can discern the false accounts is when they just so happen to perfectly align with the agenda or dogma of one particular religion or denomination. And no I am not referring to those who meet religious figures such as Jesus or Mohammed. I am referring to those who meet Jesus or Mohamed and get told that if they don't join such and such church or follow the rules in a certain book, they will burn for eternity, or some variation of that. In those cases, you can be sure there is a hidden agenda behind the story.
God has no religion. God's Love is universal.
originally posted by: guitarplayer
a reply to: Greven
the bible is quite clear that non have ascended except He who has descended first and that is Jesus.
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
so any story of going to heaven is untrue it kind of make a fool out of God in the sence that He is unshure of what He is doing.
originally posted by: NoRulesAllowed
The afterlife is real, alright, but do NOT look for the truth about the Afterlife in books which get hyped on Oprah and have a blue cover with clouds.
I don't believe anything Eben Alexander wrote and I sure don't believe one word in "The Afterlife of Billy Fingers".
There are (some) good books, start with "Dying to be me" by Anita Moorjani and especially the great books my M. Newton, the Journey of Souls series.
Again..just look at the covers of many of those books and how they already look like fakes....
originally posted by: arpgme
a reply to: NoRulesAllowed
So, true. There are interesting NDEs about people dying and coming back alive with their sicknesses being healed with medical records to show, but if it doesn't fit with the beliefs they already have they just ignore.
Good thing the NDEs with SOME medical credibility are not just about hellfire .
Peace to all
and don't be so paranoid watching negative NDEs with dark spirits . See a positive one which includes PHYSICAL miracles as evidence like Anita Moorjani being healed of cancer even when the doctors said it wouldn't happen.