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Well, I mean to ask am I good or evil in his (or god's) mind. I should have clarified.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ScientificRailgun
Good and evil are constructs of the human mind. There is no clear definition of what either of those things are.
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originally posted by: Jenisiz
a reply to: ElohimJD
I'm a giving and kind person and there isn't a lick of faith in me. To require a belief in any deity for people to be respectful and helpful is a pretty grim outlook and imho, pathetic. I don't need an invisible man in the clouds watching me to act like a nice human being...but apparently religious people do. Welp, just another group of individuals unable to accept that they control their own lives...
All you have to do to be saved is to believe in god and be baptized.
originally posted by: ElohimJD
a reply to: Entreri06
Faith is belief in God as Creator and Lawgiver.
Without Faith you cannot determine what good (agreement with God) and evil (disagreement with God) is.
Therefore you create your own personal definition of "good" and "evil" according to what seems right to the individual; rather than what God says.
7.2 billion different personal definitions of "good" and "evil" produces chaos and conflict (current age).
7.2 billion individuals agreeing with God's definition of "good" and "evil" by FAITH produces peace and agreement (age to come).
Faith requires obedience to all of God's Laws, because you have faith in God as LAWGIVER. Therefore, anyone who is faithful towards God, would also be faithful towards keeping God's laws (not murdering, not raping babies etc.) You cannot separate faith in the lawgiver as God and the Laws which He created to be lived by the faithful.
It seems many of those you think are "faithful" do not live by the Laws of God and are in fact liars.
God Bless,
originally posted by: WilsonWilson
a reply to: ElohimJD
But people dont liev according to gods laws, otherwise they would be killing adulterers and fornicators etc.
even those who clainm to be christian could not live by the laws laid out in the bible because they are not compatible with a modern society that doesnt belief in killing on a whim.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ElohimJD
I'd rather disagree with God. He is so demanding and I don't like his demands or the way he goes about distributing his edicts (human preachers/crazy peo.. *ahem* "mystics").
originally posted by: Jenisiz
a reply to: ElohimJD
I'm a giving and kind person and there isn't a lick of faith in me. To require a belief in any deity for people to be respectful and helpful is a pretty grim outlook and imho, pathetic. I don't need an invisible man in the clouds watching me to act like a nice human being...but apparently religious people do. Welp, just another group of individuals unable to accept that they control their own lives...
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
So am I good, or am I evil? It's a very simple question.
originally posted by: ElohimJD
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
originally posted by: ElohimJD
a reply to: Entreri06
Faith is belief in God as Creator and Lawgiver.
Without Faith you cannot determine what good (agreement with God) and evil (disagreement with God) is.
I take offense to that. As a well-intentioned Atheist, I know quite well the difference between good and evil. I also know VERY well, and it has been demonstrated QUITE recently that faith can actually CLOUD that distinction between good and evil. To the point that slaughtering a group of innocent cartoonists is considered "good" by some people.
So, if your definition of "good", is anything your god decrees (including murdering gays, "witches", people who work on Sunday, etc), then I'm quite happy to be "evil" in your eyes.
At least I'm not murdering cartoonists, bombing abortion clinics, protesting soldier's funerals, or molesting little children.
If that makes me evil, I accept that with the widest grin I can manage.
This post is a wonderful example of the natural mind. This is human nature and all mankind will feel this way without God intervening. There is nothing wrong with being natural at this time, it is the purpose for the present age; for each human being to determine for themselves what is right and what is wrong.
God has designed other ages for the contrast to be established. This is not that time.
You take offense, because of pride in your own human reasoning, you are right in your own eyes (by design). To agree with God is to be humble.
God Bless,
If man was created in God's image, why is it in our nature to disagree with God?
originally posted by: ElohimJD
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
So am I good, or am I evil? It's a very simple question.
originally posted by: ElohimJD
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
originally posted by: ElohimJD
a reply to: Entreri06
Faith is belief in God as Creator and Lawgiver.
Without Faith you cannot determine what good (agreement with God) and evil (disagreement with God) is.
I take offense to that. As a well-intentioned Atheist, I know quite well the difference between good and evil. I also know VERY well, and it has been demonstrated QUITE recently that faith can actually CLOUD that distinction between good and evil. To the point that slaughtering a group of innocent cartoonists is considered "good" by some people.
So, if your definition of "good", is anything your god decrees (including murdering gays, "witches", people who work on Sunday, etc), then I'm quite happy to be "evil" in your eyes.
At least I'm not murdering cartoonists, bombing abortion clinics, protesting soldier's funerals, or molesting little children.
If that makes me evil, I accept that with the widest grin I can manage.
This post is a wonderful example of the natural mind. This is human nature and all mankind will feel this way without God intervening. There is nothing wrong with being natural at this time, it is the purpose for the present age; for each human being to determine for themselves what is right and what is wrong.
God has designed other ages for the contrast to be established. This is not that time.
You take offense, because of pride in your own human reasoning, you are right in your own eyes (by design). To agree with God is to be humble.
God Bless,
You are human.
Human nature of and by itself is against God, therefore our nature is to be evil (disagree with God).
As a human you were created with the capability to choose a different way of thinking than the natural mind. You have to potential for both good and evil. I cannot say whether you are good or evil, I am a man; only God can judge the minds of His Creation in spirit and in truth.
God Bless,
originally posted by: ElohimJD
originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: Entreri06
Religious programming is more important than free will.
Within free will there lays the choice to agree with God.
God Bless,
originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: ElohimJD
one question :
is slavery immoral ?
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
If man was created in God's image, why is it in our nature to disagree with God?
Is because of the Satan's gift to us of the knowledge of good and evil? If this is the case, why would God choose to keep that knowledge from us in the first place?
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
If man was created in God's image, why is it in our nature to disagree with God?
originally posted by: ElohimJD
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
So am I good, or am I evil? It's a very simple question.
originally posted by: ElohimJD
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
originally posted by: ElohimJD
a reply to: Entreri06
Faith is belief in God as Creator and Lawgiver.
Without Faith you cannot determine what good (agreement with God) and evil (disagreement with God) is.
I take offense to that. As a well-intentioned Atheist, I know quite well the difference between good and evil. I also know VERY well, and it has been demonstrated QUITE recently that faith can actually CLOUD that distinction between good and evil. To the point that slaughtering a group of innocent cartoonists is considered "good" by some people.
So, if your definition of "good", is anything your god decrees (including murdering gays, "witches", people who work on Sunday, etc), then I'm quite happy to be "evil" in your eyes.
At least I'm not murdering cartoonists, bombing abortion clinics, protesting soldier's funerals, or molesting little children.
If that makes me evil, I accept that with the widest grin I can manage.
This post is a wonderful example of the natural mind. This is human nature and all mankind will feel this way without God intervening. There is nothing wrong with being natural at this time, it is the purpose for the present age; for each human being to determine for themselves what is right and what is wrong.
God has designed other ages for the contrast to be established. This is not that time.
You take offense, because of pride in your own human reasoning, you are right in your own eyes (by design). To agree with God is to be humble.
God Bless,
You are human.
Human nature of and by itself is against God, therefore our nature is to be evil (disagree with God).
As a human you were created with the capability to choose a different way of thinking than the natural mind. You have to potential for both good and evil. I cannot say whether you are good or evil, I am a man; only God can judge the minds of His Creation in spirit and in truth.
God Bless,
Is because of the Satan's gift to us of the knowledge of good and evil? If this is the case, why would God choose to keep that knowledge from us in the first place?
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: ElohimJD
originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: Entreri06
Religious programming is more important than free will.
Within free will there lays the choice to agree with God.
God Bless,
or the choice to disagree and be cordially invited into his custom decorated gas chamber.
To have faith in God is to believe He created all that exists. To believe He is the Creator. If you believe he is the Creator, and He gave laws to govern the Creation; why would I be so prideful as to think I can determine what is good and evil in an existence Created by God in which God Himself provided living laws for already?
I have faith in God the Creator of all things. I do not have faith in my own human reasoning because I am selfish by nature; and "Because the carnal mind (human nature) is enmity (disagreement) against God: for it is not subject to the law of God (desires their own personal morality over God's), neither indeed can be." -Romans 8:7
This is not the age for salvation, it is the age of mankind's self rule.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ElohimJD
Until you can prove that statement, I'm going to say that it is a matter of biology, social interaction, and personal experiences for the reasons that I think like I do.