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X Jehovah's Witness and the story of my first Christmas

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posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 03:37 AM
I just finished watching a film about Christmas (The Perfect Gift)...

An Amazon review I just read said that it deserves 10 stars and I agree, it's that good.

This is a wonderful Christmas film that will encourage people to look at the real definition of Christmas and the reason we celebrate this time of the year. Like so many other Jefferson Moore movies, this one is truly enjoyable for the entire family. Max is a young girl who just happens to have a birthday on the same day that Jesus was born, but she does not like it. She also is not happy that her school assignment is to write about Christmas.

As Jes helps Max with her essay, he also helps the community, her mother and the assistant minister see how important God's perfect gift to us was, the gift of love. It also takes a look at what is happening in the world today at this very special holiday season. That Christmas is a time for kindness and love, not gifts and shopping. And that people need to stand up for what they believe in and not let others that do not believe bully us in hiding the real reason we celebrate Christmas.

The Perfect Gift

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The Truth About Christmas

This movie is absolutely wonderful! If you have spoiled your children the way the world says is ok to do, you and your kids have to watch this movie. This little girl has the biggest attitude because she has been reduced to living like normal people, and she doesn't know how to handle it until she's introduced to Jesus Christ, incognito, known as Jess. To make a long story short, after spending a very short time with "Jess", the little girl's attitude disappears and her character has done a 180. Now that's the power of Jesus, live and in action. Every family must see this movie. It deserves 10 stars, but Amazon doesn't go up that far.

It would be like if the whole world threw you a birthday party, and you were the only one they made sure wasn't invited.

The Perfect Gift (2009) - Quotes - IMDb

"There Are 2 Prequels to this film, The Perfect Stranger & Another Perfect Stranger! What if the world threw you a birthday party...and you weren't invited? A spoiled schoolgirl, her overworked executive mother and a disillusioned young minister each receives an uplifting message about friendship, commitment, and the truest meaning of Christmas from a friendly but mysterious drifter named Jess."
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posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 12:03 PM
Jehovah witnesses are right about the holidays being pagan but it's good to be wid family and give gifts nuttin wrong wid that. U know Jehovah is the English translation for t he Hebrew word Yahweh? I'm sure u knew that. When the Jehovah witnesses approach me on the street I get a weird vibe like they ain't right. Btw f2f did they witnesses? I know not God himself.

posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 02:58 PM
a reply to: truehumandna

The founder of the JWs was Charles Taze Russel. Russel is one of the illuminati blood lines. The JWs are also a spin off of the Golden Dawn. Which if I am remembering correctly had a lot to do with spiritism. Also, there were supposed eye witness accounts of people who actually saw the "Higher Ups" perform satanic rituals.

I never saw anything like that myself, but I did go back to the "headquarters" Bethel and the "farm" in New York, I have family that lives at the watchtower society and makes their books. What I experienced when I visited Bethal was not love, peace, and joy, it felt soooooooo wrong, that when I got home I wrote a letter to the JW congragation and I said, "If this is God, then He has died, please remove me from your membership". That is the reason I was disfellowshipped and left the "Organization".

They spell Yahweh like this: YHWH. They remove the vowels. It has become their symbol like the christian fish symbol.

posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 05:00 PM
a reply to: misskat1

What is so revealing about these satanic rituals is that the same thing is happening in ALL of these false religions.

I have read about so many whistle blowers that have seen this taking place I have lost count.

What if I were to tell you, that there is a vast Satanic conspiracy to deceive the masses of every society on earth? What if I were to tell you that the top leaders of the world’s religions were in league with the Devil? Would you think I’m crazy? I would! Yet, the truth is stranger than fiction! You have been lied to my friend. Few people in the world today are aware of just how much Satan has infiltrated and is behind ALL false religion.

Rothschilds funded the Jehovah's Witness'

The Rothschilds had long had a plan to create a religion of their own for the Illuminati in Palestine... One, Charles Taze Russell, of the Illuminati Russell bloodline (the Russell's were one of the creators of the Illuminati's second chapter, Skull&Bones at Yale University) was the man who founded the Watchtower Society, also known as the Jehovah's Witnesses.

He was a Satanist, a pedophile according to his wife, a friend of Rothschilds, and most certainly Illuminati. Historian, David Icke states, " was the Rothschilds who funded the Jehovah's Witness operation into being, along with other Illuminati bankers (ie, Kuhn, Loeb, and Co.), through "contributions" by organizations like the Rothschild-controlled B'nai B'rith. This was proved in a court of law in 1922.

One of the key people involved in this was Frank Goldman who later became President of B'nai B'rith. Why would an organization set up (in theory) to help Jewish people and promote the Jewish faith, be funding into existence the Jehovah's Witnesses?? I think the name Rothschild answers the question. Russell was also a high degree Freemason and Knights Templar. He promoted Zionism, another Rothschild creation, on behalf of his friends and backers."

| Rothschilds, Rockefeller & the Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons

Charles Taze Russell, of the Illuminati-reptilian Russell bloodline, was the man who founded the Watchtower Society, better known as the Jehovah's Witnesses. He was a Satanist, a pedophile according to his wife, and most certainly Illuminati. His new "religion (mind-control cult) was funded by the Rothschild's and he was a friend of theirs, just like the founders of the Mormons who were also Rothschild-funded through Kuhn, Loeb, and Co.


In fact, two J.W.s who had actually been in the Illuminati while J.W.s but had broken free, confronted the Governing Body and headquarters with their evidence of the Illuminati operating within the membership of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

The actions of the Governing Body in squelching any serious action against the high level Satanism secretly operating within the Jehovah’s Witnesses shows what my Be Wise A Serpents book revealed, which is that very secret high level Satanism has long been controlling the Watchtower Society. One of these 2 eyewitnesses to Illuminati activities within the higher levels of the Watchtower Society realized that something is seriously wrong at the top, when the WF leaders do not really care for those people in the congregations who are becoming the victims of SRA. One elder in good standing lost his position because be warned the WT Society of satanic infiltration.

· The rank and file JWs have no awareness that the WT Society has a secret upper level of involvement. (Note, I identified this upper level in my chart explaining how religions are controlled by Satanism.)

· The Illuminati within the Jehovah’s Witnesses have a hidden agenda that is separate from the published goals of the WT Society, although they also support many of the goals of the Society.


edit on 21-12-2014 by Murgatroid because: Added link

posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 05:02 PM
What the JW's are presenting to mankind is a counterfeit gospel.

A counterfeit is something that looks almost exactly like the real thing, but isn't the real thing.

To a spiritually undiscerning mind, the JW scam looks awfully convincing, because it looks just like the real thing.

Now, passing counterfeit money is a crime, causing inconvenience, loss and disappointment to the victim. But counterfeit religion is even worse. It’s deceptive, because it looks so much like the real thing. But sooner or later, it will catch up with the person who tries to pass it off as genuine religion. And when that happens, people get hurt; especially the people who know genuine religion. They often get turned off on all religion, and want nothing more to do with it.

Counterfeit or Genuine

When the Secret Service trains its members to recognize counterfeit money, they begin by studying and learning the genuine article. They study in great detail all of its protections, its paper and markings, and the very smallest details to ensure they know the “real thing” better than anything. A bank teller deals with money all day long and he or she can get a good feel of the currency and know the “real thing” from experience and handling the bills on a daily basis.

We begin by finding the genuine article by looking at the name…one that honors its founder and creator. As Christ pointed out to Peter, in Matthew 16:18, Christ is the founder…any other is an imposter/man-made/counterfeit.

Counterfeit Religion

MUST read books for Jehovah's Witnesses who have any doubt about whether or not the JW organization is a cult...

If you want to learn the truth of the JW’s I suggest you read two books by Raymond Franz “Crisis of Conscience” and “In Search of Christian Freedom”. Franz was born into the JW’s, his parents already involved with them for many years. During his 60 years with them Franz served at every level including serving as one of the ‘governing body’ for 10 years, the highest level possible to reach in this organization. During his life long membership with them Franz witnessed many atrocities that caused him to leave this Satanic cult. I strongly suggest that anyone wishing to know more about the JW’s read these two books which expose the JW’s for what they truly are, I assure you, you will be stunned beyond belief when you read the heartless schemes of this joyless religion.

posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 05:25 PM

originally posted by: misskat1
a reply to: truehumandna

The founder of the JWs was Charles Taze Russel. Russel is one of the illuminati blood lines. The JWs are also a spin off of the Golden Dawn. Which if I am remembering correctly had a lot to do with spiritism. Also, there were supposed eye witness accounts of people who actually saw the "Higher Ups" perform satanic rituals.

I never saw anything like that myself, but I did go back to the "headquarters" Bethel and the "farm" in New York, I have family that lives at the watchtower society and makes their books. What I experienced when I visited Bethal was not love, peace, and joy, it felt soooooooo wrong, that when I got home I wrote a letter to the JW congragation and I said, "If this is God, then He has died, please remove me from your membership". That is the reason I was disfellowshipped and left the "Organization".

They spell Yahweh like this: YHWH. They remove the vowels. It has become their symbol like the christian fish symbol.
the evil rejected one's use as a tool for evil u gotta stay wise and intuned to God's real message.

posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 05:37 PM
a reply to: Murgatroid

Thank you for the awesome links, its been a long time since I examined any of this. And you are so right, they have a measure of truth, so it looks attractive. Take Christmas, they are right, it does have completely pagan roots. And I am sure there are a lot of Christians who feel trapped into Celebrating a holiday that really isnt Christian. I have struggled with that myself.
But for the JWs its all about control. "The letter of the law killeth, but the spirit gives it life". "Having a form of godliness, but denying the 'power' there of".
But, if people would just take a look at the history of how the JWs came into existence, they would know that it has a corrupt foundation. Thank you again for the links, so that if any JWs surf by, hopefully they will take a really good look at the history.

posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 05:57 PM
a reply to: Murgatroid

I should have added also, about the huge problem with pedophiles in the JWs as well. I had "vetted" my first husband by going to the elders in his congregation and asked everything about him, they just plain lied. He was supposed to be a ministerial servant in "good standing" but he had gone to them and confessed he had problems with prostitutes, and porno. I was 16 for gods sake. What he did to me was nothing less than child abuse.

But, come to find out later that the head elder who I spoke to, was abusing the kids at his wifes day care. When kids would start to talk and his pedophile problems were discovered, he was sent to a new congregation. Where he would do the same thing, over and over this happened. Many years later with a slue of victims left at all these different congregations, there was a huge lawsuit and the JWs paid out over 300,000 to each victim and there were a huge amount of victims. I know this is a fact because one of my nieces and nephews were some of the victims. And I went through the process with them. Once the suit was settled, a gag order was issued and they are never allowed to tell their story.

The JWs pay out rather than go to trial, because the bad publicity would kill the cult.

posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 07:40 PM

originally posted by: misskat1
I started reading the bible and it didn't take me long to realize, these people are full of something besides God and Truth...

When I read that part of your OP it reminded me of Francis Chan's encounter with some Jehovah's Witnesses...

When he told them that he read the Bible, this was their response:

"Well that's your read it for yourself. You can't understand it unless one of our leaders explains it for you."

How do Jehovah's Witnesses react when they meet someone really excited about God and the Bible and they want to talk about it? Often times they can't run away fast enough. Are they really looking for people who love God and love the Bible or are they just looking for people who will blindly submit themselves to their doctrine?

Francis Chan told about the time two Jehovah's Witnesses came to his house. He listened for a minute and then asked if he could tell him about the things that God was doing in his life and how God was answering his prayers. One of them responded that God doesn't listen to everyone.

He told them that the week before he was preparing for a conference where they go and care for the poor and make 10,000 hot meals but they didn't have any meat or any money. They have been praying all week...and an hour after the announcement was made that they didn't have anything to give...Trader Joe's called and said that all of their freezers had broken down...and could they use all of the meat. Then a giant U-haul pulled up loaded down with chicken and pork chops and steaks. Isn't God awesome!? The lady looked at her friend and said lets get out of here. They started walking away...and he went and walked with them!

I told them my struggle is if you started with this (scripture), would you ever come up with your belief system? That is so hard to get from this book, if I just read this book... I can't get that from here, I can't get your mixing the book of mormon... here's my problem, I wouldn't come up with this whole theology if I started with this...

One of them said "What are you...a Pentecostal?" He responded with "It doesn't matter, all you need to know is that I'm a human just like you and I read the Bible for it and then I pray to God and that God listens to me." She responded "Well that's your read it for yourself. You can't understand it unless one of our leaders explains it for you." But that is the real problem. They didn't believe that the Holy Spirit is real...and there is power in the book...he can speak to you. You put your faith in people to tell you what it says...but you can't trust people to tell you the Bible, you have to read it for yourself. God will tell you what it says when you open the book for yourself.

Don't look down on those ladies for not reading it for themselves. Do you know the book well enough? How do you know that your pastor or Louie Giglio or Francis Chan or John Piper or Tyson Coughlin or Jon Shea or Mickey Connolly or Joe Lechner are telling you the truth if you don't know it for yourself?! I'm not saying that you can't learn from those men, they are all incredible men who study God's word for themselves...but for you to be able to own scripture for yourself, you have to know scripture for yourself! Don't spend time searching for the best preacher or the most popular or passionate or scholarly or entertaining or expressive it for yourself! God tells you himself! You have to be on your guard and know the Bible well enough to know when someone lies to you.

Taking God At His Word

posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 08:03 PM
a reply to: Murgatroid

I thought I shared my story, on the off chance that someone would be blessed, but what do you know, I was very blessed by the last post, because, at one time in my life, I was those women. So brainwashed. All the years I had spent going door to door "preaching", and when a "real" encounter happened, it took me a couple of years to figure it out!

There is a very self-righteous pious spirit that has control over these people. How can the Holy Spirit teach the unteachable? They are instructed not to read any material besides their own Watchtower books, and it is hammered into them that they have the only truth. Its only by the grace of God that my eyes were opened.

posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 07:45 AM
I have a JW Kingdom Hall, right behind my house. Literally. They are out in force every weekend, and I learned from a former JW, that the only way they stop, is if you tell them you are disfellowshipped. They leave with a quickness after that, and now, they don't stop here anymore.

Strange bunch. I'll admit, I don't know a lot about their religion, but I have heard stories like yours many times and that's enought to let me know to steer clear.

Good for you for getting out and finding your own faith!

Merry Christmas!

posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 03:52 PM
This is really inspiring to read. I was raised a jw. I am 25 and living a free life away from the cult. My family is all apart of that religion. They aren't as bad as others, they still talk to me..mist of them... but the religion sickens me. The breaking up of families. The judgement. I have tattoos and they look at me like im hitler or something when i sed the jws i used to know..its disgusting and hypocritical how they judge but then try ro convert everybody they meet and even try to have their chuldren convert other kids time of year makes me think of how grateful I am to have an independent attitude and free will. I have been trying to find a faith however I am not going to be any part of organized religion. It would be nice to hear from any other ex jws if you want to hit me up on here.

posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 04:24 PM
a reply to: kody12345

Im in my 50s and Im just sending you such a big hug. I know how much courage it took to break free. The condemnation, the rejection, Im so sorry. But, I know the wow, Im free feeling. I have to admit, it took me a while to get to that place, because I was so conditioned to live in fear, guilt and condemnation. So, it took a long time to be set free from that brainwashing. I was a little younger than you are when I left, and since that time, Ive explored soooooo many religions. But, I have never found an organization that I could agree with. Not to mention everyones agenda.

So, grab your bible, and ask the Holy Spirit to led you and guild you into all truth. A couple of times I thought I had "arrived" and knew what it was about, but you continually evolve spiritually. And what I believe today, is not the same as it was 10 yrs ago.

So, walk in the light as you see the light. Walk in love and compassion. Thats really all there is to it. I did learn a lot from the different churches I have gone to. But, it seemed to me they all had there own agenda and I just never learned to fit. But, it is wonderful to have a community of believers that you are a part of.

There are great congregations that have wonderful music and cool activities, a place to worship with others would be very good for you. You dont have to agree with all the stuff. So, just visit a couple of local churches, you will know immediately if it "feels" right to you. If you feel like the message feels like it spoke to your heart, and people are warm and friendly, and the pastor isnt begging for money, or trying to control you then go back a few more times.

When I was struggling, a neighbor came over and said, I believe in tithing, but my church has all the stained glass and pews it needs, and I can see, your children need shoes, and blessed me with enough to put decent shoes on my kids.
The bible says pure religion is helping the widow and orphans. What she did was "pure religion" and Im sure honored the father.

If you go through a time when you need encouragement or want to talk, let me know.

posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 04:43 PM

I understand what you are saying.

You've found an answer..... God be praised that we have never been alone.

posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:28 PM
a reply to: misskat1

I'm not saying i believe you +_+, but it was a good read. Thank you for that + a star for you.

P.S.: I'm not saying i don't believe you either.

posted on Dec, 23 2014 @ 02:37 AM
a reply to: misskat1
Oh wow! I personally am not religious, though I have nothing against god or Jesus or religion but those that like to intrude into things, or the more cultist ones, they are annoying to. I generally am not much for holidays, though I have nothing to complain about, and generally my family does the whole Christmas thing, even the whole presents thing my sis always brings her kid over the day before and and everybody gets together and opens presents and all that come morning.

So other then for the fact that they like it, and the kids seem to like it, its kind of a whatever thing for me. I dont really have any stories to tell.

But dam! Your story is more of a Christmas story then any I seen in any Christmas movies on Christmas Eve itself.

Cool stuff.

posted on Dec, 26 2014 @ 05:33 PM
So how was Christmas, what you expected, didnt?
Yeah its all commercial and surrounded by money hungry sales staff. Christ was not born on that day and Christmas trees are mentioned in Isaiah.
But I like to spend money on my family and enjoy the meal, they like it as well and I dont worship the Christmas tree in my living room.

I hope you enjoyed Christmas, it is just another day,\. Hope you find close friends and family to walk with

Next big step, choccy eggs and bunnys

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