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originally posted by: Shamrock6
So of the two shots fired inside the vehicle, one was recovered from the door and the other was in a wall that would've been behind Brown, as he was facing the vehicle? Am I understanding or have I got it backwards?
I'm on my mobile, so I keep having to scroll back up to the picture to confirm directions and such. Apologies for being difficult
During the investigation at the scene, Detective also noted and directed his attention to the apartment building known and numbered as 2960 Canfield Drive. Detective observed this building's exterior consisted of brick and vinyl siding. On the north side of this building, was damage consistent with having been struck by a projectile.
The building sits just east ofthe incident location and the front of the building faces Canfield Drive. The building consists ofthree levels which are accessible via an exterior wooden staircase structure attached to the building.
Detective directed his attention to the wooden third level landing. Detective observed, while standing on this landing and looking to the west, there was a direct line of sight to the area where the incident took place. There were no obstructions between the landing and the area of occurrence.
On the west side hand rail of the stairwell was an area of damaged wood from an apparent projectile. Detective observed a corresponding hole in the vinyl siding and wood of the wall.
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Shamrock6
All I would say in regard to the casings near the vehicle is that it's entirely possible that the casings got kicked around, either by Brown himself or Wilson when exiting the vehicle. The only other alternative is that Wilson was out of the vehicle, given the placement of the casings, and we know that to not be the case.
that is probable cause.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: deadeyedick
Ah. So the only possible reason I can have for disagreeing with you and pointing out that you have yet to cite a single thing that meets the legal definition (that's the LEGAL one, not your own personal definition) is that I'm a racist, medicated, or a paid shill. Got it.
What does me knowing the law better than you have to do with any of that?
I would say that you are wrong but you did not really get your point across either way. Are you saying they were not there to find probable cause cause i agree with that even though that is what they were supposed to be doing. You want to compare it to what a cop does? They can find the clothes you wear or the looks of your ride to be probable cause. Why could this gj be performed the same as the majority of them have been? The blaring probable cause is wilson running and gunning while breaking protocall and putting himself in extreme danger along with every other breathing organic life form on the street that day. That along with much other pieces of a puzzle that when looked at some will say one thing and others the opposite.
originally posted by: nenothtu
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Shamrock6
All I would say in regard to the casings near the vehicle is that it's entirely possible that the casings got kicked around, either by Brown himself or Wilson when exiting the vehicle. The only other alternative is that Wilson was out of the vehicle, given the placement of the casings, and we know that to not be the case.
that is probable cause.
"Probable cause" is a level of certainty required on the street, for example to effect an arrest by an officer. It is not a factor in Grand Jury proceedings, nor in a court room trial.
Based on Wilson's testimony he started firing after Brown had been approaching him and he gave orders for him to get on the ground. Based on Wilson's testimony there is no way to determine how far Brown had moved when Wilson opened fire so there is no way that the audio could be used to determine the rate of Brown's advance when Wilson started firing.
Based on Wilson's own testimony - there is no way that Brown was "charging" or "running" or even jogging at him.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Greven
Based on Wilson's testimony he started firing after Brown had been approaching him and he gave orders for him to get on the ground. Based on Wilson's testimony there is no way to determine how far Brown had moved when Wilson opened fire so there is no way that the audio could be used to determine the rate of Brown's advance when Wilson started firing.
Based on Wilson's own testimony - there is no way that Brown was "charging" or "running" or even jogging at him.
Ok.
so we can assume most of the distance was covered at a fast rate if wilson was telling the truth.
Yes. Which I'm not sure have been authenticated but lets say they have been.
we then have the recorded shots.
What doesn't add up? Help me out here.
i think you get the picture that something does not add up.