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I like to go down into the docking compartment and turn out all the lights and watch the nighttime sky through the two portholes there.
first they are not in total darkness for 90mins at a time.. it takes 90mins to do a full revolution of the Earth, a full revolution means they will be on the sunlit side of the globe for part of that 90mins.
Yes that's what EU proponents say and without any experiments to back up opinions, the opinions aren't very helpful. You could have an opinion that leprechauns make a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, but it's still not true.
originally posted by: ElohimJD
Electromagnetism is the strongest force in the universe. Gravity is simply a manifestation of Electromagnetism in my opinion
The fact you can apply an opposing force of a different type says nothing about the nature of gravity.
in fact; with enough electrical charge, one can counter the force of gravity (levitation).
Mainstream physics doesn't ignore electricity and plasma in the universe. Wikipedia has an article about the mainstream topic called Space Plasma Physics, or just Space physics:
Is the Universe Electric?
Solar flares, and CME are electronically driven discharges.
Are these facts the Electronic Universe Theory?
But to ignore these facts because they have the words "electric" and involve the "universe" would also be unwise.
Space physics, also known as space plasma physics, is the study of plasmas as they occur naturally in the universe. As such, it encompasses a far-ranging number of topics, such as heliophysics which includes the solar physics of the sun: the solar wind, planetary magnetospheres and ionospheres, auroras, cosmic rays, and synchrotron radiation. Space physics is a fundamental part of the study of space weather and has important implications not only to understanding the universe, but also to practical everyday life, including the operation of communications and weather satellites.
originally posted by: GaryN
From inside the ISS there are no views of deep space, they have to be EVA to look away from Earth. From inside they must look 'sideways', through the Earths atmosphere. It is the atmosphere that makes stars, or planets, and even the Moon visible. Without clarification from Hadfield about his statement though, I have to take him at his word, as I do Armstrong.
From: Jason Puddister from Fredricton, Canada, age: 10
To: Mission Specialist Patrick Forrester
Question: Can you see the stars from the station?
Forrester: Well, Jason, you can see the stars very well from the station and from the shuttle. They're quite clear. They don't twinkle. You can see the colors in them mainly because you're not looking through the atmosphere. It's also interesting to note that the galaxy - you can see the Milky Way very clear, and it's just a beautiful sight up here.
Yes, you are correct, so it's 45 minutes of light, 45 dark, but because of their altitude, the dark period is a little shorter, about 35 from running Celestia. Still lots of time to dark adapt, even if it was neccessary, which it isn't, and that's a test you can do for yourself. Look at the brightest light you can stand for as long as you can stand it, then look up on a stary night. I can see stars in less than 5 seconds. Sure I can see more as I dark adapt, but Hadfield should have been able to see them after a few seconds, he has vision that is among the best in the world, or space.
Well off-topic here though, better not push the subject here...
originally posted by: ElohimJD
Gravity is simply a manifestation of Electromagnetism in my opinion
Since, to the best of my knowledge, I was the only one who attempted to bring any real science into the discussion on the pro-EU side, I assumed those comments were addressed "at" me.
I have an open and curious mind that views any unexpected behavior as worthy of research.
the total charging it would experience is time dependent.
The equation that you quote is for a quantum particle. In the real world, the energy transported by a wave is directly related to the amplitude of the wave, independent of frequency.
How can one comet be the end of a theory there are many.
If EU theory had been true, then the makers' precautions would have been useless; Rosetta would have been fried.
All critical components on all spacecraft are enclosed in a Faraday cage.
The plasma density around the comet would also prevent the build up of large value electric fields.
Because any electric potential between the spacecraft and the comet would be equalized in a conductive medium, yes? Through discharges, yes? That would, if sufficiently powerful to validate EU predictions, be at least noticeable through their interference with spacecraft telemetry, right? If not through actually damaging or destroying the craft itself, am I correct?
Discharges don't have to be arc mode, they can be glow or even dark mode, so there is electron flow and a gentle equalisation.
I don't know why you keep insisting that these craft should get zapped or blow up if EU ideas were true.
Orignally posted by AnarchoCapitalist
I'm reserving this post for gloating should the probe short out, explode, or otherwise fail to return good data because of electrical interference on the comet.
Answer the first question, please. How does communications and navigational equipment work inside a Faraday cage?
Because that is what ATS's top EU promoter was expecting.
originally posted by: GaryN
Anyway, here is an older gif movie from the rings of Saturn. Here you will see Prometheus approaching a ring, and you can see at first an attraction of the moon and ring dust to each other as they have differing charge. As the charge equalises Prometheus slows, but its inertia pushes in to a point where an arc discharge occurs, and a sputtering of dust from the ring to the Moon surface, which is how they grow and also get their surfaces modified. Then they have equal charge so the moon is repulsed, the dust in the ring does some equalisation. The rings have sufficient magnetic tension in them, a longitudinal magnetic field, that they should be considered plasma flywheels, which is why there is sufficient mechanical force to repulse Prometheus, rather than it just passing through the ring. And yes, the dropout during the arc discharge is from RF interference, but the antenna and electronics both survived, and have likely survived many such events, due to the proper design.