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originally posted by: skyblueworld
They're moving in the wrong direction to be satellites in a geosynchronous orbit!!!!
If an artificial satellite is in geosynchronous orbit, that means it's rotating around the earth at the same speed the earth is rotating.
originally posted by: tombaccei
The balloon theory is not reasonable, in my opinion. If enough wind was present to move individual "balloons" in the clusters with the relative speed recorded, than all of the balloons in a cluster would have had to move. If the two clusters were not connected, and such a turbulent wind were present, then the relative position of the two clusters would not have been so stable. If the balloons were not connected, then how can you explain the distinct clusters and the steady inter-cluster distance?
Another thought. It would not be very hard to do some calculations to determine their speed across the disc of the sun at various estimated distances from the observer, which can be correlated to the apparent size as compared to that of the aircraft. Also what was the angle of the sun above the horizon at the observers location at the time of the eclipse? This would allow and additional correlation of altitude to the estimated distance to the objects. I will take a crack at graphing the size, altitude and speed of these objects over various estimates of size this evening if I have time.
Another relevant piece of data would be to note the placement of the moons shadow relative to the horizon, which could determine, to some degree, the direction of movement of the objects.
The similarity of the movement of these objects is subjectively very similar to several recent "ufo" videos, as noted. The movement of shapes in those videos also did not seem to be consistent with swirling or shearing winds either.
On Oct. 23rd, just as the New Moon was about to pass in front of the sun, the students of Earth to Sky Calculus launched a helium balloon carrying a Nikon D7000 camera. Their goal: to set the record for high-altitude photography of an eclipse. During a two-hour flight to the edge of space, the camera captured 11 images of the crescent sun. The final picture, taken just a split second before the balloon exploded, was GPS-tagged with an altitude of 108,900 feet.
GIANT SUNSPOT CRACKLING WITH FLARES: AR2192 is the biggest sunspot in nearly 25 years, and it is still growing. The active region now covers 2750 millionths of the solar disk, an area equivalent to more than 16 planet Earths skinned and spread out flat. It is so large that sky watchers are seeing it with the naked eye when the sun is dimmed by low-hanging clouds or, in this case, dense fog:
Hey thanks! The students wish to thank AutomationDirect.com for sponsoring this flight. Their $500 contribution paid for the helium and other supplies necessary to get the balloon off the ground. Note the Automation Direct logo in this picture of the payload ascending over the Sierra Nevada mountains of central California:
originally posted by: Jaellma
a reply to: bluemooone2
I am a balloon engineer and expert.
These are nothing more than jet propelled balloons with translucent swamp gas used for buoyancy.
Hope that helps.