Ebola patient is in NY

originally posted by: texasgirl
So Obama just held a press conference thanking all the healthcare workers for their dedication in fighting the disease in the three infected nations. He hails these workers as "heroes" and deserve that gratitude. It felt like he was telling us citizens "shame on you for criticizing them!"

I don't have a problem with feeling gratitude toward the doctors and nurses who treat Ebola. In my mind they ARE heroes for fighting such a deadly disease that they might possibly get themelves but my issue isn't with that at all. It's when they pitch a fit for being under a mandatory quarantine that they become 'selfish and unreasonable'.

How can they be upset with a mandatory quarantine when it's proven that they can develop Ebola after a week of being home? How can they be upset with a quarantine when the actions of Ebola-infected nurses and doctors (like Craig Spencer) go out on the town, take subways, fly to another city and eat in public at restaurants, thereby shutting down some of these places to disinfect and clean so that the terrified public might come back? How much money do businesses have to lose before these nurses and doctors realize it was because of their own irresponsible actions?

Dr. Spencer LIED to authorities about showing symptoms before hospitalization. How many more are we going to encounter before they have to admit being quarantined is the only way to go?

and...
how many of those workers might just might have had a fever that were in the same room but took Tylenol?

originally posted by: D4rcyJones
a reply to: Anyafaj

Yeah but CNN has consistently being wrong about everything they are saying. There is a huge difference between suspect and confirmed ebola that the media wilfully neglecting in order to boost ratings.

The most recent reseach suggests that even if you removed all the exit screening that is happening in west Africa then there would be based on the current trend a total of 3 evd patients per month leaving west Africa, with most of them bound for other African countries and some European. 8 to the US every month? Not a chance.

I have no clue where they get their numbers. I remember it was a female doctor with dark hair that made the comment, she had an accent. (Might even have been Nurse Pain In The Butt's friend who said it.) Don't quote me though.

originally posted by: texasgirl
So they released Amber Vinson yesterday. Another very healthy-looking woman after contracting a deadly disease. If I even so much as catch the flu I lose several pounds and none of these Ebola survivors look like they've lost any kind of weight at all. Isn't one of the symptoms severe weight loss? The only one I think who lost weight and looked a little ill was Kent Brantley and he was the first patient. What gives?

I wonder what Dr. Spencer will look like when he survives and is released. BTW...Any updates on him?

CNN kept repeating over and over yesterday that during the Gastro stage of Ebola, you expel THREE POUNDS of diarhhea a day!!! (Their emphasis, not mine. One female news anchor, actually covered her mouth and went, "Oh my! I don't know if I wanted to know that!" LOL) Of course, 15 minutes later the doctor repeated it. So now CNN is trying to gross us out, as well as educate us. LOL

Reply to: RunForTheHills



Here's an idea. Instead of bringing them here, which is admirable, how about build more hospitals there, send more staff there, educate them on leaving the body alone after death (no hugging and kissing, further spreading Ebola), send more doctors and nurses, rather than a few, (And not just us, other countries.) Send medical supplies, including massive amounts of bleach. Thoroughly clean or burn each hut of each victim, do not allow family BACK into that hut to collect momentos, unless it can be disinfected. If you can think of anything to add, feel free. Start at one village, seal that village off! Temporarily, mind you, then work your way to the next one. Open the village and seal off the two villages. Continue the process as you go along. No ONE IN! If anyone goes out, they are not allowed back in until a quarantine proves they are Ebola free to prevent from having to repeat the whole process over again.

originally posted by: texasgirl
And there are two phrases I'm getting really tired of hearing:

"Abundance of Caution" and "Based on Science".

I especially loved when Obama said, "I've met Kent Brantly before and he's a great man of great faith. And his wife has been feeding him well. (They noticed we've been complaining of him looking gaunt!) I enjoy having Keith(!!) here at the White House." Keith is it?? After the speech he whispered something in Kent's ear, probably something like, "Sorry I screwed up your name on National TV, bro!"

He's gone home.

Glad he's okay. That's a wrap.

a reply to: Anyafaj

I like some of your ideas...but....

somewhere in one of these ebola threads there was an article about a huge shipment of supplies, sitting at the dock at the arrival point and the no one would sign off and release the stuff......apparently the countries want money and there was a list of how money was parceled out and the ridiculous way it was used over there

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
He's gone home.

Glad he's okay. That's a wrap.

Or is it?

originally posted by: funkadeliaaaa

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
He's gone home.

Glad he's okay. That's a wrap.

Or is it?

New incoming Dr. with ebola announced...

Nebraska hospital prepares for new Ebola patient
From Elizabeth Cohen, Senior Medical Correspondent
updated 10:49 PM EST, Thu November 13, 2014
www.cnn.com...

So has their been any new news on Dr Spencer. I've looked but haven't seen or heard a thing! Almost like it never even happened!

originally posted by: Hellas
Doctor who treated Ebola patients is rushed to NYC hospital

The Big Apple may have its first case of Ebola.
A 33-year-old Doctors Without Borders physician who recently treated Ebola patients in Guinea was rushed in an ambulance with police escorts from his Harlem home to Bellevue Hospital on Thursday, sources said.
Craig Spencer was suffering from Ebola-like symptoms — a 103-degree fever and nausea, sources said.
He landed at JFK airport on Oct. 17 on a connecting flight from Brussels, a source said. Spencer’s temperature was 98.7 degrees upon arrival, the source added.

NY Post

New York Post video of crews in protective suits at Bellevue Hospital

Look at those idiots in the back! What do you do when you see people in hazmat suits in front of a hospital? Right, you go closer and take pictures

a reply to: Mjab6910

Two posts above yours, it says he went home.

What's up with this ?

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UPDATE: Source: Woman on NYC monitoring list died of "apparent non-Ebola condition;" test to be performed in "abundance of caution" - @ABC

link

a reply to: MrLimpet

Wow....the mainstream media is ignoring this, for the most part. I found a UK report that I believe one of the Tweets was referring to:

There are new fears of a possible Ebola outbreak in New York City after a woman dropped dead on Tuesday afternoon. FDNY activated the Special Operations and Hazmat units after the the woman, who had recently traveled from Guinea according to a source on the scene, died at Amy Professional African Hair Braidig in Brooklyn. An eyewitness who saw the body said there was blood coming from her 'face, nose and mouth.'

and.....

He then said he ran in there to find a woman laying on the floor. When asked what she was bleeding from, Costa said, 'face, nose, mouth, everything.' Meanwhile, members of FDNY could be seen carefully changing into Hazmat gear outside before heading into the establishment, for what they referred to as a 'fever travel illness.' It had been reported in October that an FDNY memo instructed all personnel to use more vague terms when discussing Ebola, such as 'fever travel incident.'

Source

I thought that bleeding occurred in the later stages of the disease. How could this woman go about having her hair done, etc etc and no one notice she was sick? Maybe I'm wrong.....could the symptoms occur at any stage?

This does not bode well....nope...not at all. And the salon is still open too, btw, according to this report.

Cheers
Ektar

originally posted by: dianajune
a reply to: MrLimpet



Wow....the mainstream media is ignoring this, for the most part. I found a UK report that I believe one of the Tweets was referring to:

There are new fears of a possible Ebola outbreak in New York City after a woman dropped dead on Tuesday afternoon. FDNY activated the Special Operations and Hazmat units after the the woman, who had recently traveled from Guinea according to a source on the scene, died at Amy Professional African Hair Braidig in Brooklyn. An eyewitness who saw the body said there was blood coming from her 'face, nose and mouth.'

and.....

He then said he ran in there to find a woman laying on the floor. When asked what she was bleeding from, Costa said, 'face, nose, mouth, everything.' Meanwhile, members of FDNY could be seen carefully changing into Hazmat gear outside before heading into the establishment, for what they referred to as a 'fever travel illness.' It had been reported in October that an FDNY memo instructed all personnel to use more vague terms when discussing Ebola, such as 'fever travel incident.'

Source



I thought that bleeding occurred in the later stages of the disease. How could this woman go about having her hair done, etc etc and no one notice she was sick? Maybe I'm wrong.....could the symptoms occur at any stage?



This does not bode well....nope...not at all. And the salon is still open too, btw, according to this report.

That is very weird. Yes, it's generally reported in the later stages of Ebola. I wonder if a seizure could be mistaken for a heart attack? One of the final stages is organ failure and seizure, I believe.

I'd like to know if the employees there immediately knew if there was something wrong with her when she walked in or if she was acting normal. Were her eyes red?

And why did the FDNY come back later Tuesday night to decontaminate the hair salon? And why did they keep the salon open?!!!

a reply to: texasgirl

I heard something on the radio that said the lady in the salon had a heart attack.
I am not used to hearing about heart attack victims bleeding out of their face.

a reply to: dianajune

ABC News just announced the Ebola test was negative, but the announcement also claims no bodily fluids left her body:

The remains of a woman who died of an apparent heart attack at a hair salon in Brooklyn have tested negative for Ebola.

The New York City Health Department announced the results early Wednesday morning. Officials had said Tuesday that at last check the woman did not have symptoms but was being monitored because of her travel history.

EMS responded to a hair salon on Belmont Avenue in Brownsville around 2:30 p.m. on Tuesday where the woman died. She was declared dead at the scene. The FDNY confirms that this was a "clean scene," meaning the woman, in her early 40s, died without any bodily fluids leaving her body.

I watched the video at your link with the eyewitness saying she was bleeding from her "face, nose, mouth, everything," which contradicts what we're being told by 'the authorities' here.

I think I believe the eyewitness more than the authorities, or at least I seriously question what we're being told by 'the authorities.' I hope more witnesses come forward.

a reply to: ikonoklast

I think I believe the eyewitness more than the authorities, or at least I seriously question what we're being told by 'the authorities.' I hope more witnesses come forward.

Indeed.
That kind of thing is difficult to be mistaken about.... blood coming out of nose and mouth.
That, and she was on a watch list because she came over from West Africa.

'Oh, the witnesses were mistaken, no blood.... nothing to see here... move along please.'

I found this, it appears to be the original video with the guy talking about the woman bleeding. It's from a small local news service in New York that sells their work to bigger news outlets:

BMR Breaking News video on Facebook

There isn't any additional info on it as far as I could tell. I just thought some might prefer another source besides the Daily Mail.

originally posted by: ikonoklast
I found this, it appears to be the original video with the guy talking about the woman bleeding. It's from a small local news service in New York that sells their work to bigger news outlets:



BMR Breaking News video on Facebook



There isn't any additional info on it as far as I could tell. I just thought some might prefer another source besides the Daily Mail.

Thanks for the video. When asked if he gave CPR, the witness says he wouldn't touch her. Can't say I blame him.