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what you are saying is like going to a Chinese restaurant and asking for a dominoes pizza.
This is about setting a precedent and you know it.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Tangerine
Not to the people who believe in the Bible.
Actually, every one of those authors has a very specific relationship to this issue: all of them wrote fiction about real life.
It doesn't matter if you don't believe in the "truth" of the Bible, or that the facts contained therein are ... questionable.
There are people who do believe, and those people are our co-members here and our fellow citizens in society.
If I have to use their book, and their beliefs to at least try to get through to them, I will.
It's not a "private business" it's a public business.
In Muslim communities.
But businesses are subject to the law and the law says they cannot discriminate.
The public doesnt own private businesses.
Shirtless people are not a group. You are not being descriminated against because of who you are, you are being refused service because you're a slob. Put a shirt on and you'll be fine. I guess you think that gays can just turn straight?
If you go to my business with no shirt I will not serve you for instance.
Tell me, are these topless women a legally recognized group?
Shirtless people arent a group, yet there are feminist groups in NYC that lobbied their right to go topless.
Ah. Got it. People choose to be gay. They can stop being gay just like putting a shirt on. They just don't want to.
Being gay isnt a group either sir Its a life style
No. Women can go topless without being arrested. That's not quite the same thing. It is gender equality. Men can go shirtless in public, so can women. Places of business still are allowed dress codes because they do not say "men have to wear shirts but ladies...nah."
Yes, women who choose to go shirtless are a legally recognized as a legally protected group in NYC.
No. I'm saying that it is illegal to discriminate against them just because they are gay.
If you think that gay is a group different than you or me you are saying that they are separate from us.