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Originally posted by Samhain
Originally posted by Trent
Originally posted by Samhain
Well i wouldn't blame Bush (or Kerry) for this because i don't think he knows much about running armies and has to rely on his advisors. However from what i have heard Rumsfeld could be the person to blame, from the start of his career he has been disagreeing with top army guys on the direction the army should go. He wants it to be smaller and more mobile while the top army guys want it to be bigger and equiped for fighting large scale wars. When Iraq was on the drawing board the head of the army said they would need 700 000 men for a sustained occupation of a country like Iraq to contain the problems faced in a country with so many domestic problems. Rumsfeld wanted to invade with 50 000 and luckily Frankes who was charged of the job of planning it with him (although the final say was Rumsfelds) was able to talk him into sending 140 000 but this was still probably not enough. I think the US has to start thinking about going back to conventional army thinking if it is going to mount large scale invasions and occupations like this.
[edit on 8-12-2004 by Trent]
Well,as the commander in chief it's HIS JOB to know about running army's.
Bush and Rumsfeld are directly to blame for this.I thought Bush was a war president?this reminds me of the nazi offense into russia,and the german soldiers were starving and freezing to death,in the mean time,leaders are telling their people that victory is near,and that god is on their side.
It's funny how people have such a double standard when it somes to bush and his failures.
If this was a football game,and the players got on the field and didnt have enough helmets,or all their pads and shoes,would you blame the towel boy?
Attention to detail and thoroughness starts at the top,unfortunately this is a sympton of the culture in our leadership right now.
"If any question why we died,
tell them because our fathers lied."
-Rudyard Kipling, Common Form in The Years Between
"We don't even care...that we don't care."
- Morla, The Never Ending Story
Originally posted by cstyle226
Freedom is on the march.
Your billions are going into billionaires pockets, while your troops create their own armor out of garbage.
Sweet liberty, with a hefty side of corruption! Can you spread some more of it around?
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I want to point out a couple of things. One the Humvee was not designed to be an armored personnel carrier.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Apparently, two soldiers were "set up" to ask embarassing questions of Rumsfeld yesterday, by a reporter who was upset that no reporters were going to be allowed to ask questions.
He supposedly admitted using the two soldiers as escorts, and told them which questions to ask.
[edit on 9-12-2004 by jsobecky]