Patient with Ebola Like Symptoms Reported at Howard Univ. Hospital in DC!!!!!!

a reply to: Rodinus

Time will tell. In West Africa, we are seeing an R0 of more than 2. That means that each infected person is infecting at least 2 more people on average. That's why we are seeing an exponential crisis in West Africa.

Bishop

a reply to: SpaDe_
In less than 21 days.

My little nasty inner demon is wondering if this could end up being a quarantine of Washington itself. Too bad, one can only dream, sigh.

Of course - and let's hope this is it - it could just be a fellow passenger of Duncan's who has nothing more than the stomach flu but he got a call from United Airlines and flipped out.

For those of you who think that fear mongering or undue worry is going on:
a repeat of one of my former posts:

What does it take to be exposed to Ebola
which is very highly contagious if any body fluid gets on you from someone at the airport who has taken ibuprofen to control their symptoms and fool the airport screeners?

The CDC says it is not airborne, because technically it is not, airborne in disease terms means the virus is small enough to travel more than a few feet in a sneeze or cough. The Ebola virus is large and falls within 3-4 feet of a sneeze and so is not technically airborne.

However, the cough and sneeze radius:
would include anyone on the airplane to either side of the ill person also, the people behind and in front of the ill person. exposed

Sitting in the airport lounge waiting for a flight, anyone within a 3-4 foot radius if the sick person sneezes or coughs. exposed

Using the urinal at the airport , the guy who is ill standing next to you sneezes or coughs or splashes urine on your bare skin. exposed

Passing by you on a airplane on the way to the restroom, a sneeze or cough, exposed

Standing next to you waiting for luggage, sneeze or cough, exposed

Standing next to you in line getting on the plane or off, or in the security line, sneeze or cough, exposed

In an elevator with you anywhere in the airport and sneezes or coughs, exposed.

Standing within 3 feet of you anywhere and sneezes or coughs, exposed.



Also, if the person who is ill gets any bodily fluid on their hands:
whatever they touch will carry the germ
long enough (estimates between 8-15 hours)

if someone who is ill and didn't just wash their hands after sneezing, coughing, using the restroom, touching their eyes or mouth, sweating and you touch it within 8 hours after they do:

for instance touches a restroom slide , exposed

touches the top of an airplane seat, exposed

touches a door handle in the airport, exposed

all within 8-15 hours after the ill person touches it, exposed


The CDC guy on Chris Matthews show
would not say that you could not catch it from
fever sweat that touches and arm rest or seat cushion, exposed


Think I am being a fear monger? Take a look at this.
Instructions for laboratory workers and health care workers:

SOURCES/SPECIMENS: Blood, serum, urine, respiratory and throat secretions, semen, and organs or their homogenates from human or animal hosts Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 53.
COMMUNICABILITY: Communicable as long as blood, body fluids or organs, contain the virus. Ebolavirus has been isolated from semen 61 to 82 days after the onset of illness, and transmission through semen has occurred 7 weeks after clinical recovery Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 59 Footnote 60.
Ebolavirus dried onto glass, polymeric silicone rubber, or painted aluminum alloy is able to survive in the dark for several hours under ambient conditions (between 20 and 250C and 30–40% relative humidity) (amount of virus reduced to 37% after 15.4 hours), but is less stable than some other viral hemorrhagic fevers (Lassa) Footnote 53. When dried in tissue culture media onto glass and stored at 4 °C, Zaire ebolavirus survived for over 50 days Footnote 61.
PHYSICAL INACTIVATION: Ebola are moderately thermolabile and can be inactivated by heating for 30 minutes to 60 minutes at 60°C (140 degrees F), boiling for 5 minutes, or gamma irradiation (1.2 x106 rads to 1.27 x106 rads) combined with 1% glutaraldehyde Footnote 10 Footnote 48 Footnote 50.
www.phac-aspc.gc.ca...

Canadian Health Department and CDC statements:
The Canadian Health Department states that airborne transmission of Ebola is strongly suspected and the CDC admits that Ebola can be transmitted in situations where there is no physical contact between people, i.e.: via direct airborne inhalation into the lungs or into the eyes, or via contact with airborne fomites which adhere to nearby surfaces. That helps explain why 81 doctors, nurses and other healthcare workers have died in West Africa to date.
www.americanthinker.com...

Observation: It appears the US CDC is purposely lying to the American public about Ebola.

If it is so hard to catch, then how did Docs in haz mat suits catch it in Africa? They certainly weren't touching patients.

This is far nastier stuff than the American public is being told,

we need to close our borders to people from infected countries until the pandemic is over,

and to protect ourselves,

shut down everywhere infected people have been in the US for 21 days,
harsh, yes, hurt the economy, probably,

but that is better than millions upon millions of deaths.


As far as Ebola being used purposely as terrorism:
All they have to do is shave and pretend they are from South America and walk through the southern border. We have let lots of sick people in through the border. Active TB cases have been let in. The new mystery virus that causes a polio like illness Obolio, looks like the origin is the kids from south america.

So all they have to do is shave

walk through the southern border

they can even have a fever and be vomiting

and the US will let them in

if they aren't vomiting

the US will give them a piece of paper and tell them to report to someone, but never follow up

and give them a ticket to anywhere in the US they want to go.


Easy easy easy to weaponize Ebola that way. Heard that scenario all over the radio yesterday.

Thank you liberals/progressives/Democrats/socialists who want open borders with amnesty so bad they are endangering everyone in the US and causing an epidemic of Obolio and now - the terrorists have already figured it out, they are announcing it on their sites and social media - just walk across the open border at the south and ask for asylum or falsely promise to report to the person on the slip of paper.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

And I read on the WHO website this am that the virus can live in a man's sperm for up to 70 days AFTER HE IS CURED!!!

This is the story that needs to get out!


www.who.int...

Incredible timing for this ebola virus to make it's way into the U.S., don't you think?

Flu season will be firing up very soon. The early signs and symptoms of ebola are very similar to the flu.

Could be some inundated hospitals, school closures, quarantines, (fema camps), well...my paranoid mind just goes with the doom...but, really, a lot of people get the flu every year. But, this year, there is the fear of ebola added to it.

Not cool.

a reply to: lostbook

Meh, probably someone who did some travel got a cold, was worried it might be ebola and matched his cold symptoms with ebola symptoms on webMD

The tight classes and dorms in college, the shared bathrooms and locker rooms ... oh man that could travel fast through a school. Here it comes ...

Howard University Demographics
Historically black university. Mostly black female American students.
Heavy arts and sciences.

originally posted by: lostbook
Going by the twenty-one day rule, anyone who wants to travel from West Africa to anywhere else in the world should have a mandatory wait time of twenty-one days.

I've thought that as well.

The Nigerian airport is a major transport hub....airliners taxi in and out of that airport dozens of times every day, and each one could be a 'carrier' so to speak.

Rodinus is right in saying that the US isn't the only nation that could see confirmed infections- Heathrow, De Gaulle, Sydney...all of these major airports could be recieving flights with infected passengers-not to mention the connecting flights.

The flights in and out of Nigeria should be scaled back, once every two months IMO. Once people are cleared than by all means they should be able to book a ticket. As for the rest-quarantining will be necessary to stop this from spreading further into Africa and the rest of the world.

If it is ebola, then it happened at the right place and time. By having such occur so close to say the Congress and President, then perhaps it will scare them into doing what is needed to be done to preserve and protect the country as mandated. However, knowing how that insane house works, they will pretty much do the absolutely the worse thing of all.

originally posted by: aboutface
My little nasty inner demon is wondering if this could end up being a quarantine of Washington itself. Too bad, one can only dream, sigh.

I wonder about that as well. I'm ready to stock up on supplies if necessary.

We have a possible one here in Atlanta. I posted it in the Dallas thread. I am new so I am not exactly sure if this is a forum faux pas...so please let me know.

atlanta.cbslocal.com...

a reply to: grandmakdw

Now I feel better......

originally posted by: bella2256
We have a possible one here in Atlanta. I posted it in the Dallas thread. I am new so I am not exactly sure if this is a forum faux pas...so please let me know.

atlanta.cbslocal.com...

From your link:

WSB-TV reports that the man told jail officials he recently traveled to Africa after developing a fever while in custody.

I guess proofreading is a thing of the past in the age of the Internet? A shame that this is what you get with MSM... it is a CBS affiliate.

But thanks for posting the info.

Possible D.C. Ebola Patient Isolated in ‘An Abundance of Caution’

Just saw this and figured it should be added to the thread. The patient is now in isolation.

originally posted by: SpaDe_
Possible D.C. Ebola Patient Isolated in ‘An Abundance of Caution’

Just saw this and figured it should be added to the thread. The patient is now in isolation.

Thx for the update.

originally posted by: Rodinus
a reply to: FamCore

2 cases in the USA and people start going panic stricken and bonkers!!

We in Europe have a lot more to worry about compared to you folks in the USA!

We are much nearer...

Come on... You dont hear about the rest of us here on this massive great planet getting our knickers in a twist!

Take it easy and relax... The weekend is here.

Kindest respects

Rodinus

Your post proves just how easy these isolated incidences prove to be out of control. The big massive planet is made MUCH smaller with mass global transit. People can go half way around the world and be in a third world country within hours. I'm glad we don't have people like you running the CDC or government..... Oops or maybe it is exactly the case of who's running things.... Ignoramuses.

While our own government has taken a lax approach to this situation, I have a feeling others won't should America become the next Ebola hotspot.

The Canadians will most likely lock down their border with the US.