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Seattle Trash Ordinance Fine for Wasting Food

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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:22 PM
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Just another way of the government telling the people they are too stupid to take care of themselves.

So they are forcing people to do it the environmentally conscious way,
because the Democrats think people are too dumb not to force them into compliance with what they think is right..

Liberalism/socialism/progressivism at work ladies and gentlemen; they know best what everyone should be doing and if we don't agree they will cram it down our throats anyway.

I lived with this garbage in Germany for 6 years where you had to separate and wash,
yes wash your trash,
before putting it in the correct container.

And in this socialist country glass was not allowed in the trash at all,
you had to throughly wash it and then take it yourself to a collection spot.

Big items you had to take yourself to a collection spot where you had to separate it into the correct bin
(normally about 8 bins at the collection spot)

I learned to loathe socialism/progressivism during my time in Germany, where everyday lives were micromanaged and you were fined if you disobeyed.

Just to make sure you were "good enough" at sorting and hauling your own trash,
Germany fined you if you overloaded on your bi weekly pickup of one 20 gallon trash container.

We got so sick of that we decided we'd never separate our trash again!

The Germans were so socialist and progressive that dogs were limited to barking hours (9-12 AM) and (4-7PM).
Dogs barking outside of those hours merited a visit from the police.
I know, we got a visit. By the time the police arrived,
the dog was sound asleep on the couch.
She apparently barked at 8PM for a few minutes in the back yard before coming in.

This kind of socialism and progressive thinking is slowly creeping into the US and will be established before we realize what is happening.

Germans also made it illegal to pick any flower that you did not grow yourself.
Rude to pick other's flowers yes, a crime, yes in socialist/progressive/liberal countries.
And this kind of thought is coming to a city near you thanks to the liberals!





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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic How 'bout I start dumping food in your garbage cans? No trial, no jury, just you paying $2 a week ($104.00 a year) for the rest of your life just because I think it's funny.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
How 'bout I start dumping food in your garbage cans? No trial, no jury, just you paying $2 a week ($104.00 a year) for the rest of your life just because I think it's funny.


WTF dies that have to do with ANYTHING?



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:47 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic How 'bout I start dumping food in your garbage cans? No trial, no jury, just you paying $2 a week ($104.00 a year) for the rest of your life just because I think it's funny.



Isn't tax on tax illegal?

If so, why not just pay $2 per week and put what you want in the bins.

Cheaper isn't it?

Peace



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic The reason this ordinance is stupid, I can randomly dump stuff in your cans to make you automatically responsible for fines even though you did nothing wrong and you have no recourse, no trial, no jury... you are just automatically guilty. As soon as this ordinance is challenged it will be struck down.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:55 PM
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Although it seems like a good idea to consolidate compostable materials, I fail to see any drawback to putting however much food you want in the garbage. It is (hopefully) 100% biodegradable, so whether it makes it to the municipal compost heap, or into the landfill, I can't see how it has any affect on the short or long-term health of the planet.

Throwing recyclables in the trash is another thing. There is an impact from putting quality recyclables into landfills and this should be discouraged in any number of ways. Food though, will only decompose and is unusable as a recycled material, so I can't understand the basis for this law.

The easiest way to handle any of this is to just charge by weight or volume (eg per cubic foot) anything that didn't get into the recycling/compost -- ie trash. Fair and simple. Throw away more/pay more
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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw




Liberalism/socialism/progressivism at work ladies and gentlemen; they know best what everyone should be doing and if we don't agree they will cram it down our throats anyway.


You realize that the people voted for it right?



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:36 PM
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OK. Let's see if I've got this right. The people want responsible trashing. That includes recycling and composting. Composting isn't that hard with the new receptacles. A government implemented this in a BLUE state and Breitbart butchers the story for political gain? Is that about right?



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: intrepid




A government implemented this


After it was voted on. That's all you missed really.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: intrepid




A government implemented this


After it was voted on. That's all you missed really.



The people want responsible trashing.


No I didn't.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

Oh. Perhaps I missed something.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: Domo1

I said "the people want responsible trashing". The vote was implied.

This is not that damn hard. I'm on my own and produce about a shopping bag of trash a week. WAY more goes into recycling. Cardboard, tins(yes, rinse them), etc. I don't compost because I never have leftovers. Peelings or the like.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: MentorsRiddle

Thank god I moved out of that f*cked up state years ago....with "leaders" like P Murray and a slew of bleeding heart nanny liberals, Wash state is just another pile of goop like Oregon and Cal.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic How 'bout I start dumping food in your garbage cans? No trial, no jury, just you paying $2 a week ($104.00 a year) for the rest of your life just because I think it's funny.







It will be even funnier when you get caught on camera doing it, so good luck with that. Due to Seattle being the home of a highly technical, highly educated populace, most private homes, apartments, and businesses have security cameras on their properties. Especially in the dumpster areas. Many garbage/trash areas on many properties have cameras as well, due to a big problem with homeless people rummaging through dumpsters and leaving big messes. Plus, everyone and their hamster in this city has a snappy smart phone. So dumping in someone elses dumpster is gonna likely backfire on you.

And regardless, unlike what the ass clowns at Breitbart are getting all hysterical about, people are not going to get "fined" every week for having compostables in the trash. I practically live in Seattle on weekends when I go stay near my old place. My friends were discussing the new ordinance. The citations and "fines" are more suggestions than anything, and if they are even ever used, it will be in cases where there is a known and repeat offender who trash habits have become a health and safety nuisance. Trash collectors are not going to go through everyone's garbage to see how much food or whatever they throw away. About the only time they will be doing this if there is a known major and continuous issue. Even then, the fines and citations are mostly advisory in nature.

The people of Seattle supported this measure, even asked for it, so I do not see what the problem is. The city is even providing the composting bins.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

Let me rephrase. Oh. So it was ME that missed something. Because I clearly missed it when I responded to you the first time. I don't translate well through text.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: Domo1

You got it man. We're on the same page. Sarcasm doesn't translate well via text.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Domo1

You got it man. We're on the same page. Sarcasm doesn't translate well via text.




PLAY NICE...Both of you.!!!

You are using a weapon that many are lacking...Intelligence. Not fair.




Peace




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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 07:31 PM
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In a year or two, you will hear of SWAT teams raiding houses because they had more then 10% compostible trash in their reg containers..
Dont laugh, you know I'm right...



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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DP
edit on 24-9-2014 by jude11 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: MentorsRiddle

Lord help me, but I'm going to have to agree with the progressive/commie/leftists on this one.



We had compost bins when I was stationed in Germany. We recycled, separated our trash, and it was a very practical approach.

Recycling is actually a good thing and it should be encouraged.

If you're placing food/organic materials in a different type of container, it actually gums up the recycling process.




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