I completely understand your point, but I think there should be separation between certain ideas. What I mean is this: say you have a group following
doctrine that teaches them to persecute and act in a violent manner towards those who do not share their beliefs, yet the majority of that group do
not commit such acts against those with opposing religious views. They simply live their lives and go about their business, while others in their
group heed the teachings laid down in their doctrine and act violently towards those not affiliated with their group. Should those who are in no way
affiliated with the doctrine, those who the doctrine state should be persecuted, be asked to live among those who subscribe to that doctrine?
I am not saying that the teachings of Islam are to kill non-believers, but obviously it is in there somewhere, otherwise the concept of jihad wouldn't
be used to recruit Muslims to fight against the west in general. So the first thing that needs to be established is whether the teachings truly state
that Muslims should attack or persecute non-Muslims. Let us make the assumption, for argument's sake, that Muslims are taught by their religion to
persecute non-believers. If that is the case, then why would you want to live in an area with Muslims, since you cannot know who will follow the
tenets of the religion and who will not?
I mean if they truly believe in the religion, and the religion teaches them that everyone else is not worthy of living or something similar to that,
then either we must believe they are not true believers or that they are just biding their time to strike. Again, this is hypothetical. If this is
what Islam teaches then it cannot be compared to Christianity and the horrible acts perpetrated by Christians, such as the Inquisition, simply because
the religion itself does not teach these things. Since I have a greater understanding of Christianity than Islam, I know for a fact that Christianity,
which was based on the teachings of Jesus and which replaced and superceded the older Jewish teachings, teaches tolerance for others, whether they
believe the same thing that you believe. At the very least it does not teach that "infidels," or non-believers, should be persecuted in any way. Thus
any atrocious acts committed in the name of Christianity cannot be blamed on the religion, since it does not teach that.
But if Islam does teach something of that nature, then the religion IS to blame. That is my whole point. If the religion teaches violence towards
others, we should not ignore it and say people are practicing "freedom of religion." We would not do this with any non-religious group. If a group's
doctrine taught killing, persecution, violation of the civil liberties of others, and certain members within that group took these teachings to heart
and started killing those not affiliated with their group, then we would, rightly so, label the entire group a terrorist organization, and would not
allow them to exist above ground. So I say that if Islam truly teaches the persecution of non-believers, then in no way should those who subscribe to
the belief system be allowed to openly practice their intolerant beliefs. Again, because people would be committing atrocities in the name of that
group. And again, if the doctrine teaches this then it is a problem with the entire doctrine, but if the people are committing these horrible acts
when the doctrine does not tell them to, then it is strictly their fault, and has nothing to do with the doctrine.
So basically it is either the fault of the people alone, or it is the fault of both the people and the doctrine. This would be like someone getting
prosecuted because they told others to go out and kill. Charles Manson is the main person that comes to mind as an example. So if Islam teaches to go
out and kill non-believers, then it is the fault of Islam just as much as the person who commits the act, and Islam should be prosecuted as well. But
again, it first must be established what Islam teaches. I suspect that these groups couldn't use it as a basis for "jihad" if it didn't truly teach
these things. So if Islam teaches this hate, then it should not be allowed to exist as strictly a religion within the US, and should be outlawed as a
terrorist group, because it is a problem of doctrine, even if most people chose not to obey it.
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