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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
How do we truly and effectively counter the power and reach of mass media if it has become propaganda? This is a critical question for any kind of activist.
originally posted by: DeepImpactX
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
How do we truly and effectively counter the power and reach of mass media if it has become propaganda? This is a critical question for any kind of activist.
First of all, don't try to do it on their turf. Quit thinking that posting on their sites will make a difference. Their house, their rules and they can delete anyone they want.
Secondly, it's going to take time. It took time for things to get this point, so it's going to take time to turn this ship around.
Sorry, but that's all I got. Just build up a counter method to their method somehow to where your method seems more legitimate to the public.
Has anybody else experienced any of this with media outlet comments or forums?
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
Has anybody else experienced any of this with media outlet comments or forums?
You'd be wasting your time preaching to that choir. They are the ones spouting the crap. If they had their way they'd do away with the internet and go back to one way media dissemination of information.
"Its our ball and you can't play." Control freaks.
By the way, your opening paragraph was spot on. They would never let that stand in their forums.
Here it is for all to see as the antithesis to all that.
As time goes on more and more people will be tuning out of their diatribe and tuning in to alternative media like ATS. I hear they are joining in higher numbers lately.
Just keep telling it like it is. Let that other main stream propaganda machine spin itself out and dry up.
originally posted by: AnteBellum
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
I have noticed it for years and there is not one single website, other then the smallest innocuous, that do not adhere to this system. Some go to great lengths to even hide this fact using cunning tactics that seem to most harmless, but unfortunately they are just another way to introduce an editorial standard to something that seems different.
The entire media system is corrupt and should not be bought into. Western commercialism vs. Eastern propaganda it makes no difference. Independant media even is subjective at times due to hierarchy of their business model.
All we can do is take everything presented and compare stories to generate a smaller picture in this case. Happy hunting!
Using the web is insufficiant but word of mouth isn't, spread the word!
originally posted by: the2ofusr1
Your observations are pretty much spot on . What to do ..Well ,clicking on known propaganda websites and being frustrated by the inability to get your message across is not the way to go .Find alternative places like ATS and other places where they don't censor your comments .Although we can not change everyones mind and convince them all that it's pure controlled propaganda we may be able to show it with numbers turning away from msm and other web sites that practice such things .
I don't believe that it is possible to stop them from practicing such things but I do believe that we can limit just how effective they can be .Create a blog and reblog the news you want to .When I got into alternative news sources on of my Fav's was the Corbett Report and at first there were about 300 to 500 loyal followers .Now it's in the thousands .Just ignore the msm ..they are pretty much a joke and you have to turn what they say around 180% just to be close to the truth .Not worth it in my books .peace a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
ETA ...here op watch this vid .Its mainley about journalism and the msm and what we can do
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
I've been banned from sites like Hannity etc, yet I still have my membership to sites like "The Daily Ko's".
And I consider myself a conservative!
So yes, OP, there does appear to be some effort to control the message.
originally posted by: the2ofusr1
Create a blog and reblog the news you want to..........
originally posted by: Antipathy17
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
Don't let it dishearten you and keep trying. Create new accounts on the websites that restrict you... hell just do what you have to. One person can make a difference to sooooo many people. You could change one person or many but if you only change one person, that one person could change one or many. Just keep it up. We didn't get to this point by sitting back and letting others come to us.
I forgot to mention, yea there is a STRONG effort by MSM to block your voice out.
originally posted by: Fylgje
I'm a proud member of the 'Banned From CNN' club. They cannot handle different opinions and will delete comments like crazy. They have a dedicated sheep army of mods, I will give them that. I was also let go from Hannity for asking him if he felt good about being a Zionist troll. They have to be worried that so many are disagreeing with them. But don't worry, they're on their way out. Too many people are calling them on their propaganda BS.
Another site that I've found to have gotten really bad is a gaming website: IGN. They delete comments like crazy. The mods are very left-leaning fascists. They claim they want people to discuss a topic, but then, delete all their comments because they cannot handle differing opinions. lol It's pathetic, really.
But don't sweat it. I believe this format will be replaced by people who're sick of it. I think there will be big changes in TV, radio and movies too. Sort of a entertainment revolution
Having said that, I agree that we won't change the actual outlets with the current system.
originally posted by: DeepImpactX
originally posted by: the2ofusr1
Create a blog and reblog the news you want to..........
........And link up as many relevant blogs to yours as you can. Create a "web of truth" if you will. Presentation goes a long way as well. Make your site look as "Facebook Esque" as you can. Or just make the graphics look as much like the mainstream news sources as you can. People do judge sites on first impressions so copy the layouts of mainstream sources as much as you legally can. Keep the front page of the site, the part a viewer will see first, filled with current stories presented in a tepid yet truthful way. Let the reader decide what they want to get enthused about. Don't give them in "in your face" wording and graphics. Just stay factual and practical.
Another poster mentioned word of mouth. That is perhaps the best way to start. Be patient, the tide will turn. People have had enough.