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originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: alldaylong
Other than being shown to be wrong about how maritime borders work and what the article you linked to actually says. If that is you right would hate to see you getting confused.
You are of course entitled to your opinion on how it would all work. But unless England is actually going to invade the oil is Scotland's.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: SearchLightsInc
Claim based on actual oecd gdp per capita figures then. Yep obviously complete fantasy.
Why would you not think a developed north european country with huge natural resource reserves would be wealthy?
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: rigel4
I really think if we gain independenc Salmond will stand down and be happy he achieved his careers goal
and hand over Scotland to the next generation of politicians
Heh. No. He's a politician. He'll draw his chair up to the trough and dig in again.
originally posted by: liverlad
a reply to: ScepticScot
What are Scotland going to do to stop England from taking the oil? Yeah on paper the oil should be Scotlands but the world doesn't work like that, the little nations always bend over to the big powers.
Neil Bennet (Sept 6, p 843)1 has given stark warnings about irrevocable future privatisation of the National Health Service (NHS) as a result of the proposed Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP). This is an even more serious issue for Scotland, as people decide how to vote on its independence on Sept 18, 2014. The Scottish NHS would inevitably be drawn into TTIP and privatisation, because the TTIP agreement is with the UK Government in Westminster. There is no opt-out possible for the currently devolved Scottish NHS.
The planning behind UK involvement in TTIP appears to go back to Margaret Thatcher's Centre for Policy Studies in the 1980s, designing reforms to open up public services for privatisation.2 Throughout, either Westminster has not thought about implications for NHS Scotland and the devolved health administrations in Wales and Northern Ireland, or has considered TTIP a covert vehicle for forcing the privatisation agenda. Either way, Scotland has no voice in matters of great importance to its people. For the same reason, Plaid Cymru (Welsh party) has urged the UK Government to make the Welsh NHS exempt from TTIP.3
The NHS in Scotland is now very different from that in the rest of the UK. It is increasingly under threat because of funding cuts from Westminster. The plan for the UK to enter TTIP, without an opt-out clause for NHS Scotland, is symptomatic of the way Scotland has been treated in general, and an even more potent reason for Scottish people to be able to elect governments with full economic and bargaining powers through independence.
originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Soloprotocol
No-one's going to forcibly take all 'your' oil - its ridiculous to even suggest that its a possibility.
But, it will come at a cost - not everything is going to be settled in 'your' favour and threats of reneging on your share of national debt etc will do nothing for an independent Scotland which will be heavily reliant on the good will of other nation states.
Who is going to invest in a fledgling country that seems determined to enter into some sort of trade war with rUK?
Ps, I didn't suggest anyone was going to take our Oil. Please link your statement to Liverlad.
Doesn't every other country in the World enter into trade wars with each other.
Isn't that how you go about securing investment to your Country by cutting the throat of the the next guy.
Why would Scotland competing in a open market for Business be...Suicide.?
We have already proved to the World over and over again that we are a top drawer Nation.
That doesn't stop with Independence.