originally posted by: JokerThe1st
a reply to: AlephBet
Nice work, some food for thought.
While ultimately the paths converge the journeys are vastly different. one of these paths is certainly portrayed much more than the other when it
comes to modern day media and entertainment.
When Enoch said this, I think it gives us some clue as to why the righteous and unrighteous souls come together in one place:
1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect and righteous, who will be 2 living in the day of tribulation, when all the
wicked and godless are to be removed. And he took up his parable and said -Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God, saw the vision of the
Holy One in the heavens, which the angels showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood as I saw, but not for this
generation, but for a remote one which is 3 for to come.
For the righteous, they will use the water to put out the fire. They will be saved the torture of seeing the results of unrighteousness. That gift
of water is extended to all of us here at the end of the sixth day. God is faithful to forgive if we simply ask and believe in love and giving (name
of Christ is his character). Taking the name saves the soul and is the living water that puts out the fire. For the unrighteous, they will see their
works destroyed on the seventh day when the Holy Spirit baptizes with fire. Either way, the path will end in salvation. For those who still refuse
to repent, it will be eternal destruction. This is the reason fire is coming. God will leave no doubt. I think the fire will simply be a
realization of what could have been for the person had they repented of their rebellion. This is why Revelation says that multitudes will come from
tribulation repenting of their sins.
9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had
maintained. 10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge
our blood?” 11 Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants,
their brothers and sisters,[e] were killed just as they had been.
When sheep circle the wilderness, the shepherd removes the wool (sin). He then washes it. The wool then becomes the robe representing the wandering
of the sheep.
"Come now, let us settle the matter," says the LORD. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as
crimson, they shall be like wool.
We simply ask for the robe by turning toward it.
Buddha said the same thing in the Dhammapada:
9. Whoever being depraved, devoid of self-control and truthfulness, should don the monk's yellow robe, he surely is not worthy of the robe.
10. But whoever is purged of depravity, well-established in virtues and filled with self-control and truthfulness, he indeed is worthy of the yellow
11. Those who mistake the unessential to be essential and the essential to be unessential, dwelling in wrong thoughts, never arrive at the
12. Those who know the essential to be essential and the unessential to be unessential, dwelling in right thoughts, do arrive at the essential.
13. Just as rain breaks through an ill-thatched house, so passion penetrates an undeveloped mind.
14. Just as rain does not break through a well-thatched house, so passion never penetrates a well-developed mind.
15. The evil-doer grieves here and hereafter; he grieves in both the worlds. He laments and is afflicted, recollecting his own impure deeds.
16. The doer of good rejoices here and hereafter; he rejoices in both the worlds. He rejoices and exults, recollecting his own pure deeds.
17. The evil-doer suffers here and hereafter; he suffers in both the worlds. The thought, "Evil have I done," torments him, and he suffers even more
when gone to realms of woe.
18. The doer of good delights here and hereafter; he delights in both the worlds. The thought, "Good have I done," delights him, and he delights
even more when gone to realms of bliss.
19. Much though he recites the sacred texts, but acts not accordingly, that heedless man is like a cowherd who only counts the cows of others — he
does not partake of the blessings of the holy life.
20. Little though he recites the sacred texts, but puts the Teaching into practice, forsaking lust, hatred, and delusion, with true wisdom and
emancipated mind, clinging to nothing of this or any other world — he indeed partakes of the blessings of a holy life.