I really liked my first thread which was "almost certainly not for you." This one is not poetic or allegorical at all, but still, there are very
many people for whom this thread will be repugnant. All are welcome, but many will not feel welcome.
Hernando's Hideaway? If you're as old as I am, you might have heard that slow tango advertising a place (in Iowa, as it turns out) which was a home
for alcohol and prostitution. Surprise! That's not what I'm promoting here.
Wiki has a second reference.
"Hernando's Hideaway" also became a nickname for the smoking room for British parliamentarians in the House of Commons. The Labour Member of
Parliament, Stephen Pound, told the House during a smoking debate on February 14, 2006: "I refer the House to the dystopic hell – 'Hernando's
Hideaway' – that is the Smoking Room on the Library Corridor. It is like the Raft of the Medusa most nights, with great groups of people crammed
THAT's more like it. (Although "Dystopic hell is a bit redundant.)
Our Hernando's Hideaway doesn't rely on imposing rules, rather it hopes to attract the type of people who already have the rules imprinted on their
1.) The care for a fellow Hernando is far more important than winning a debate, or even a war. People who are willing to treat people as less than
human in order to gain some advantage, are less than human themselves and not fit to join with us.
1. a.) All people are fallible, cut your brother or sister some slack.
2.) Reason can lead to truth. Reason should not be used to attain victory or the humiliation of another Hernando. We are helping each other to
truth and knowledge.
3.) Getting angry at an Hernando means something has gone wrong. A break from the keyboard is suggested.
4.) Hernandos try to get information and understanding before they say something is definitely true or false.
4. a.) We will never have 100% complete scientific proof. It is perfectly acceptable to present an opinion based on what information is available,
as long as there is a willingness to change when better information is presented. It is perfectly acceptable to say, "Blast! I don't know nearly
enough. Let's take this up a week from now."
4. b.) Evaluate the information. Do not reject anything solely because of the source, but it can be considered.
5.) There is nothing wrong with saying "This is as close to agreement as we can get. Let's set it aside for now."
Why bother with this? Because of two themes in ATS. One is that we are a family. Not a dysfunctional one, but one in which we care, at least
slightly, for each other. Two, is that we deny ignorance. Expressed positively, we search for truth. Yelling at one another doesn't further either
"OK, got it, now what?"
"Easy, we talk."
The search for truth in congenial surroundings is the topic of this thread. You can't go off topic if that is what you are doing, and doing it with
May I suggest that because of the format limitations, we stick with one or two subjects at a time, but, really, wherever you feel we need to search
for truth, and whenever, contribute.
There are short-term topics like Ferguson and long-term topics like the Creation.
What is human life? How do we find true information? Is the West dying? Is it moral for a nation to use violence in certain situations? What are
they? Have they changed in the last 50 years? What does the Russian activity in Ukraine mean for international law and balances of power? Is Islam
a different civilization, or just a religion with a few minor differences.
I honestly believe that answering these questions will lead us to an understanding of some definite truths about humanity. At Hernando's Hideaway we
may find bits of truth and weave them to form a true humanity.
What questions to start with? Up to you, but may I suggest "What is the importance of man compared with nature?" "Can torture be used to advance
a cause?" Or, "What is the purpose of the government?"
Alternatives? "Why is Justin Bieber so widely hated?" "Why do people go to movies at $10 a ticket?" "How can men and women understand each
other, or even just get along?" Or, "Is doom porn as addictive as the other kind, and is there a cure?
I don't think the direction matters as much as getting started.
With respect for those to whom this thread is addressed,