It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: pennydrops
a reply to: PaulTheDuke
If you ever hear a christian speaking down to you. Or telling gays that god hates them, or anything of this kind....you can be assured they have not read the bible. They dont even understand the basic fundamental message it portrays.
originally posted by: PaulTheDuke
This was one of the reasons I became an agnostic.
I really don't know why fanatical christians or convinced christian doesn't think about some issues happening in the Bible.I will present here some of this issues...or this is what God wants ?
First of all God created absolutely everything..so He created evil(wars,famine,hate and so on ). Isn't it ?
We all know that God loves us,that is why kids in Africa are dying from famine,that is why the Holocaust happened,that is why innocent womans and kids die in wars....this are a few things that came up in my mind.
originally posted by: PaulTheDukeGod also tells us to forgive as much as we can...why doesn't He forgave Eva for eating an apple ? I mean,she didn't knew that snake was evil.Even parents forgive their children for such little things....
originally posted by: PaulTheDukeOh..and the apocalypse..He created us,gave us free will and he kills us all because we don't do what he wants...I still believe that this apocalypse in the Bible is a major mentality change that will come in our world.
originally posted by: PaulTheDukeAnd here is an invented story based on some criterias in the Bible I've found on the internet:
A divorced woman with her newly baby-borned slept in differet rooms of her apartment.A thief enters in her apartment who was trying to rape her and steal things and money,he also got a gun with him.He kills the baby and the woman throwed herself from the apartment,falls down and suicides.According to the Bible,the woman goes to hell because she suicides,the kid also goes to hell because he didn't got the baptism and if the thief repents and frequences the Church because he realised that he did something harsh....he goes to heaven.
Isaiah 45:6-7 "That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
Some people read this verse and claim that it means that God creates sin or wickedness. This is a misguided conclusion that is usually based on a lack of knowledge or understanding of the word that is translated evil. A lot of people erroneously surmise that evil always means wickedness, but that is not the case. The word translated evil in scriptures does not "necessarily" mean evil in the same sense that we typically understand the word in our day. We use the word evil today as a synonym for iniquity or immorality, but that is not always the case throughout history or in the bible. The word translated evil in Isaiah is the Hebrew word [ra'], meaning something that is "not good." It is from a root word meaning to be spoiled, and by implication something that is not good or bad. It does not mean evil in the sense that we might think of the word today as wickedness, but more correctly understood as anything that is "not good" to us. For example, if a child receives a spanking, or we go through some adversity or have something befall us that we deem "not good" is considered [ra'] or evil. e.g.: