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Is Creationism Dead?

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posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 03:02 PM
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Judging by the moronic attacks and arguments made against evolution by creationists in this very thread, I think it's safe to say creationism is dead on an intellectual level.




posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: GetHyped

but how did you come to this unscientific conclusion.
since we have proved to you evolution is a scam and a fraud, then evolution is non existant.
the only alternative left is creation, proposed by prophets of god, and they stand correct along with other creationists.

problem solved logically and scientifically.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: Starbucks

No you have not proved anything.
Liar.
Others have at least put valid arguments and facts...you have not.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 03:19 PM
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Disco is dead, creationism not so much.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 03:38 PM
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evolutionists bragged about how humans branched from apes 7 million years ago challenging the creationists claim of creation until dna proved that all current humans branched from one man only one man who lived in recent history just like the creationists prophets claimed.
It is clear who is the liar here.

what is the mathematical probability that all humans died out to only one human in recent history to fit creation claim, ) 0% probabilty.
evolutionists scrambling to explain that all humans for seven million years died out down to one man is ridiculous and unscienific and mathematically impossible. the end of story of the lies of evolutionists ends here. it is buried for good.
only creation stand as the only other possibility making it not a theory but a fact since it is the only one standing.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: Starbucks


evolutionists bragged about how humans branched from apes 7 million years ago challenging the creationists claim of creation until dna proved that all current humans branched from one man only one man who lived in recent history just like the creationists prophets claimed.

Your understanding of the claims surrounding the Y-Chromosomal "Adam" is deeply flawed based on your comments below.


It is clear who is the liar here.

It is also clear who around here doesn't understand enough about the science involved to make a cogent argument regarding the validity of evolution.


what is the mathematical probability that all humans died out to only one human in recent history to fit creation claim, ) 0% probabilty.

You're right, it's a 0% probability because it never happened. Science simply says that his other male contemporaries could also have descendants alive today, but they would have to be matrilineal descendants, not patrilineal descendents.


evolutionists scrambling to explain that all humans for seven million years died out down to one man is ridiculous and unscienific and mathematically impossible. the end of story of the lies of evolutionists ends here. it is buried for good.

Given that the science doesn't make that claim, you've constructed quite a strawman argument for yourself here.


only creation stand as the only other possibility making it not a theory but a fact since it is the only one standing.

False duality. Even if, as unlikely as it would be to occur, someone were to find the smoking gun to invalidate modern evolutionary synthesis, creationism wouldn't "win by default". Science is based on positive evidence. Creationism has none.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 04:52 PM
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the fact that all humans branched from one man only in recent history is a fact not a theory.

evolutionist can not explain why all supposed humans died out to one man (peking man died out!)
how can all humans die out even though they are the most successful intelligent species among animals. for 7 million years, spread wide all over the continnts!

can not explain.
then scripture wins gloriously



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: Starbucks


the fact that all humans branched from one man only in recent history is a fact not a theory.

Yes, we are all patrilineal descendants of one man.


evolutionist can not explain why all supposed humans died out to one man

If you don't understand how the fact that we are all patrilineal descendants of one man is different from "all supposed humans died out to one man", which is not something claimed by any proponent of evolution that I'm aware of, is a strong indication that you don't understand what you're arguing against. Again, please read some of the resources about the Y-chromosomal "Adam" and gain a better understanding of what the evidence for a patrilineal MRCA is before trying to debunk it. The only thing you're arguing against is your own strawman version of the concept which bears no resemblance to reality.


then scripture wins gloriously

Again, before you embarrass yourself further, please read some resources about logical fallacies. Specifically, false dilemmas, and why it's simply not that case that if modern evolution synthesis is falsified (which it has yet to be), it does not mean that creationism is correct by default.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 12:25 AM
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evolutionists claim humans branched from apes 7 million years ago, and Peking Man lived 1.5 million years ago (not lonely by himself but with tens of millions of humans like him ), and the humans lived all over the earth for another 6 million years and suddenly all of them died out but only one man in africa (one of them) continued to have children while all the rest of humans did not have children in spite of all the food around them (humans can hunt and eat anything including lions etc).
so that man lived 60 thousand years ago and from his posterity came all the 7 billion humans living on earth now.

How can any body believe such a crazy claim by the evolutionists.

The truth is that one man man was the first of his kind (just like the scripture said)

the DNA science match the scripture claim.
Evolutionists can not explain how humans lived 7 million years and spread all over the world (even to Peking area!)

and then they all died while the apes did not die nor any animal did not go down to one pair.

if you do MRCA Most Recent Common Ancester of tweo monkeys one from east africa and one from west africa (absolutely the same branch of chimps) you find their most recent common ancestor lived 700 000 years ago,

while if you do MRCA to a Arab man and Europpean man their MRCA is 10 000 years ago, and African A and African B Most recent common ancestor is 70000 years ago.
actually any person of B haplogroup and any person of A haplogroup their most common recent ancestor is static at 70 0000 years ago.

also MRCA of any human on earth and a A Haplogroup African man the MRCA lived also static at 70 0000 years ago.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 12:54 AM
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Obvious troll is obvious?



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 02:34 AM
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you are probably saying that at the time of the one man (50k to 200 k years ago, ancestor of allcurrent humans) there were humans (homosapiens and neanderthals and what have you spagetti man), but they continued to live but died out around 20 thousand years ago, right? all their males and all their females died out without having children beyond 20 thousand years ago?
edit on 18-8-2014 by Starbucks because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 03:08 AM
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originally posted by: Starbucks
the fact that all humans branched from one man only in recent history is a fact not a theory.

evolutionist can not explain why all supposed humans died out to one man (peking man died out!)
how can all humans die out even though they are the most successful intelligent species among animals. for 7 million years, spread wide all over the continnts!

can not explain.
then scripture wins gloriously


You really don't know anything about this, do you? Try getting an education. Then come back and comment. Otherwise you're just going to be laughed at. A lot. Quite rightly too.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 03:09 AM
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originally posted by: Starbucks
you are probably saying that at the time of the one man (50k to 200 k years ago, ancestor of allcurrent humans) there were humans (homosapiens and neanderthals and what have you spagetti man), but they continued to live but died out around 20 thousand years ago, right? all their males and all their females died out without having children beyond 20 thousand years ago?


You're not helping your case here by continuing to spout gibberish. You've proved - yet again - that you don't know what you're talking about.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 03:15 AM
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why don't you answer the question? so I can level with you according to your understanding from the scripture of the evolutionists?



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 03:48 AM
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originally posted by: Starbucks
why don't you answer the question? so I can level with you according to your understanding from the scripture of the evolutionists?


I hate to break it to you, but there's no such word as 'evolutionist'. I think that you mean 'educated person who has done research into the Theory of Evolution and who is informed about the latest discoveries'. It's a lot longer, but it's more informative. There you go now - cheerio!



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 04:30 AM
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Grea.
good to know.
Now could you just answer the one question?
edit on 18-8-2014 by Starbucks because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 04:56 AM
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a reply to: Barcs

Poe's Law in full effect.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 05:49 AM
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originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

originally posted by: Starbucks

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

originally posted by: Starbucks
how about intelligent beings (like angles of god) are fixing the living beings from degredation by mutations (mistakes caused by time and environment).
since mutations can only cause degradation leading to death.
hence evolution is actually one way ticket to the grave.


That would lead me to consider an imperfect creator.


or he created imperfection in some places and perfections in other places.

on earth planet god creat imperfection and instructed species to avoid stressers of environment.
only the people who dont listen to god commands get more mutations and more imperfections untill god turns them into monkies


Ah, I see. That then would make the creator a masochistic psychopath, rather than just imperfect.


in your opinion, of course.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 06:06 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Starbucks
why don't you answer the question? so I can level with you according to your understanding from the scripture of the evolutionists?


I hate to break it to you, but there's no such word as 'evolutionist'. I think that you mean 'educated person who has done research into the Theory of Evolution and who is informed about the latest discoveries'. It's a lot longer, but it's more informative. There you go now - cheerio!


no such word as evolutionoid either but it fits.

and pray tell what "research" have any of you people done besides crack open a web site, youtube or a book written by someone else?



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 06:40 AM
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originally posted by: tsingtao

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

originally posted by: Starbucks

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

originally posted by: Starbucks
how about intelligent beings (like angles of god) are fixing the living beings from degredation by mutations (mistakes caused by time and environment).
since mutations can only cause degradation leading to death.
hence evolution is actually one way ticket to the grave.


That would lead me to consider an imperfect creator.


or he created imperfection in some places and perfections in other places.

on earth planet god creat imperfection and instructed species to avoid stressers of environment.
only the people who dont listen to god commands get more mutations and more imperfections untill god turns them into monkies


Ah, I see. That then would make the creator a masochistic psychopath, rather than just imperfect.


in your opinion, of course.



If not in your opinion also, then I'm worried about you.



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