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Photojournalism-investigation by a BBC correspondent Olga Ivshyna shot around the Boeing 777 crash near Donetsk, suddenly disappeared from the site and YouTube-channel (of the BBC) portal. The disappearance of the story drew attention of bloggers. Now they wonder why the material was gone, and not whether it is a manifestation of censorship by the TV channel guide.
originally posted by: ressiv
sooooo we can state now that the ukrain messed up with flight 17..
and becourse the western country's will still support ukrain ...it was an accident....... right???
my god wat an world we living in
That is what the video that you posted shows.
They cut the cockpit in half.
The only thing that shows is the rebels are responsible are desperately trying to blame any one else with the assistance of Russia.
the media has people so brainwashed that when I talk about the possability of this calamity being a false flag they call me a lunatic. very disheartning. does anyone have have any suggestions on how I should bring topics like this up. While not offending people.
For some reason when all this anti Russian sentiment from US politicians began, i started wondering what the income tax rate there was since they were acting like Russia was so evil. I was amazed to discover they have a flat tax rate of 13% for everyone compared to our 39.6%. Apparently Putin did it to stop the flow of money to black projects and shadow government. Of course they can't have that low tax rate exposing the nefarious and wasteful taxation without representation here so what do ya do...Sanctions. That's just what I'm seeing and I could be wrong but...I don't think I am.
European monitors say pieces of the Malaysia Airlines plane that was allegedly shot down in eastern Ukraine have been moved and "hacked into", adding to fears that pro-Russian rebels have been tampering evidence.
Officials from the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe at the scene said that they saw uniformed men cutting into the Boeing 777's cockpit and part ofthe first-class cabin with a diesel-powered saw two days ago.
Other pieces were also later changed or moved, OSCE spokesman Michael Bociurkiw said.
"[They tampered with] major pieces, I'm looking at the tailfin ... they do look different than when we first saw them, in that they have been cut into," Bociurkiw told the BBC world service. "One main cone section has been almost split in half."
originally posted by: maghun
a reply to: wulff
The biggest problem is the lack of any evidence... from the party involved... Have Ukraine released the immediately confiscated traffic controller voice records?
(from New Zealand CAA website)
Non-disclosure of records
The State conducting the investigation of an accident or incident shall not make the following records available for purposes other than accident or incident investigation, unless the appropriate authority for the administration of justice in that State determines that their disclosure outweighs the adverse domestic and international impact such action may have on that or any future investigations:
a) all statements taken from persons by the investigation authorities in the course of their investigation;
b) all communications between persons having been involved in the operation of the aircraft;
c) medical or private information regarding persons involved in the accident or incident;
d) cockpit voice recordings and transcripts from such recordings;
e) recordings and transcriptions of recordings from air traffic control units;
f) cockpit airborne image recordings and any part or transcripts from such recordings; and
g) opinions expressed in the analysis of information, including flight recorder information.
originally posted by: spy66
I think we can rule out that a BUK missile was used to dowen MH17.
If a BUK missile had hit the MH17 it would have immidiatly been set on fire do to the enormous heat created when the missiles fuze exploded. The very hot fragments penetrating the body of the Mh17 would have set the airliner on fire. MH17 was also heavy on fuel.
By looking at the video at the point the MH17 hit the ground. There are no solid smoke trail from where Mh17 was hit at 33 000 ft. There were barly any smoke present until it hit the ground.
I am prity sure now that it was the Ukrainan SU-25 that did this.
Give me a star: I have solved the riddle
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul
Looks like it might run through the ceiling.
Between the frame rails on the outside right, there appears to be a large copper tube running down along the rails.