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originally posted by: Chiftel
So yeah. Less guns = less shootings and less shooting deaths.
Practically no guns = practically no shootings and no shooting deaths.
More guns = more usage of guns. Not just against game.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Chiftel
Practically no guns = practically no shootings and no shooting deaths.
Has this eliminated all homicides and criminals possessing firearms?
originally posted by: Chiftel
a reply to: macman
FAIL.
You can't compare states with stricter gun laws to states with less strict gun laws within the same country or even to the national average.
You have to compare national average of the US with the national average of Japan, for instance. Or France, Germany, Australia...
For the comparison to be relevant.
Because you can simply smuggle your gun over the state boundary with basically no hassle. So gun control in one state is basically meaningless and pointless if the bordering/surrounding states don't give a #.
Whereas you cannot smuggle guns into Japan.
Also, nothing short of actual confiscation of all firearms works.
Anything short of that is destined (and very likely meant) to fail.
originally posted by: Chiftel
We also have a lower 'intentional homicide rate' than you, according to Wikipedia (1.7 rather than 4.8 per 100.000 people):
en.wikipedia.org...
If you can find / want to look for more reputable sources and studies, go ahead.
originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: macman
But if gun rights activists can't work to solve this problem in a reasonable way, the ban will come.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Chiftel
We also have a lower 'intentional homicide rate' than you, according to Wikipedia (1.7 rather than 4.8 per 100.000 people):
en.wikipedia.org...
If you can find / want to look for more reputable sources and studies, go ahead.
So people, still get murdered even though homicide is illegal? It would appear you are more concerned about the manner of death then the fact someone is killed.
When you can simultaneously prove that murder can reduced to 0.00 and the same percentage that a government will become tyrannical I will consider not owning a gun.
originally posted by: HauntWok
Just keep in mind the 2nd can be repealed. All it takes is two thirds of the states to ratify a new amendment and legal guns go bye bye.
...
The precedent is already there with the ACA, insurance is a much smaller pill to swallow than an outright ban.
No one gives a # about gun violence on this board.
they obviously welcome it, embrace it, and celebrate it.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: HauntWok
Just keep in mind the 2nd can be repealed. All it takes is two thirds of the states to ratify a new amendment and legal guns go bye bye.
...
The precedent is already there with the ACA, insurance is a much smaller pill to swallow than an outright ban.
Apples and Jell-O. One is a law originating in the Congress, the other is in the Bill of Rights.
Changing the latter requires a complex Constitutional Convention process and no one is even remotely in favor of changing the Constitution.
originally posted by: GokuVsSuperman0
Australia has found a means of diminishing gun violence.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: GokuVsSuperman0
Australia has found a means of diminishing gun violence.
Oh, the violence only 'diminished'? So they traded their ability to own firearms for a diminishment of homicide, but guess what? They still have gun violence there.
originally posted by: HauntWok
Where in the constitution does it say that we the people have to pay for the mess created by gun nuts losing it and taking out a bunch of innocent people?
originally posted by: Chiftel
Again this silly argument that any improvement short of attaining perfection is pointless or even worse than the current situation.
Amazing.
Do you feel the same way about all improvements?