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Obama Advertised In JANUARY For ‘Escorts’ To ‘Resettle’ 65k Illegal ‘Children’

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posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Awesome!

The tried, and FAILED never ending GD blame Bush excuse !

The current regime in Washington has 'no' culpability !

Funny thing there is ?

GW didn't write that.

For a law that supposedly was to 'stop' human trafficking.

Sure the EFF doesn't work.

But then again if those 'kids' are victims of anyone it's bad parents.

But of course EVERYONE who is paying attention KNOWS there are more than just 'innocent' kids coming across that border.
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posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
The smoking gun ?



Call it the “smoking gun”: proof that the Obama Administration knew, and likely colluded with activists and foreign governments, to engineer a massive wave of migrant woman, children and teens (nearly all boys) across the Rio Grande.




This particular ad ran in FedBizOpps in January with RFI for “Escorts” for 65,000 unaccompanied alien children.


WHAT SAY YOU ?


I say this is some bizarre logic.

Premised on the idea, that just because the right wing has suddenly seized on the issue...that somehow it hasn't existed before Rush Limbaugh complained about it.

Yes, the Federal Government looked for vendors to transport apprehended Illegal Immigrants to holding facilities...back in January...when the crisis was already well under way!

Try Google once in a while!

Here...I'll even offer you Fox News...cuz I know everyone else is in on the vast conspiracy!


Federal statistics show that the number of unaccompanied children making the dangerous trek from Central America -- specifically Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala -- began to pick up in 2012. It has steadily accelerated since. More than 50,000 total illegal immigrant children have crossed since last October, mostly from those countries. By one count, the estimated number of expected apprehensions this year would mark a 1,381 percent increase since 2011.

www.foxnews.com...



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: neo96


The tried, and FAILED never ending GD blame Bush excuse !


From the master of the "it was never bush's fault, even if the offending legislation was passed during his tenure."

The "surge" of illegal immigrant children has it's roots in Bush's presidency. It came from a law designed to curb human trafficking. It became a problem for Bush's successor.

Yet the noble right wing will never let a good crisis go to waste, when they can gin it up into an Obama scandal. The law signed by Bush led to the "surge" of children at the border, Obama sought escorts to deal with them. Now he is seeking 3 billion to deal with the crisis.

But according to you, this was all a plot by Obama.

All I'm doing in this thread is setting the record straight. This was no plot by Obama. I don't blame Bush either, as the law was designed to fight human trafficking. YET, it had an unintended side-effect - the so-called surge in children from Latin America. Sadly, the wingnuts and their right-wing echo chamber have no intention of actually understanding the problem.

More:

Bush Anti-Trafficking Law Blamed In Surge Of Kids On Texas Border

One of the last bills signed by President George W. Bush, the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, is at the root of the potentially calamitous flow of unaccompanied minors to the nation’s southern border, reports the New York Times. Pushed by a bipartisan coalition of lawmakers as well as by evangelical groups to combat sex trafficking, the bill gave substantial new protections to children entering the country alone who were not from Mexico or Canada by prohibiting them from being quickly sent back to their country of origin. It required that they be given an opportunity to appear at an immigration hearing and consult with an advocate, and it recommended that they have access to counsel.


Hey Haters! Border Crisis Is Direct Result Of Bush Administration Laws

Under a 2002 human trafficking law signed by former President George Bush and reauthorized again in 2008 with additional protections, Mexican unaccompanied children apprehended crossing the border are automatically returned without formal deportation proceedings because the two countries share a border. But unaccompanied children from El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala cannot be sent back without going through the deportation process, since that law ensured that America wouldn’t send kids back to a dangerous situation. (Honduras, for example, has experiences increased gang violence in 40 percent of its territory, while violence against females is surging in Guatemala.) Authorities must instead process these children and determine whether they have credible proof that they cannot return to their countries of origin. Central American children are given basic care like medical screenings in processing centers before being placed with relatives or foster care until they can appear in front of immigration judges.


Child Immigrant Surge Rooted in Bid to Stop Sex Trafficking

The humanitarian crisis resulting from thousands of immigrant children crossing into the United States illegally every month has its origins in a little-known law that was passed in the dying days on the George W. Bush administration.


Now, dear Neo, explain to me why it's such an outrage that Obama had to request escorts and busses to deal with the influx of children at the border, that resulted from a law passed by Bush in his final days?

Clearly, this thread is all about partisan hackery.



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

No from the guy who knows WHO WROTE that 'law', and who is still in Washington DC.

Yo WHO IS THE GD current president ?

WHO IS THE GUY WHO HAS BEEN PRESIDENT for the LAST GD 6 YEARS ?



Pushed by a bipartisan coalition of lawmakers a


How the hell is a 'Bush LAW' ?

Presidents don't write bills, THEY NEVER HAVE.

But hey who cares!

'Blame Bush' blah, blah, blah.

GWB!

The longest 'serving' potus in American history!.

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posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: daaskapital


Clearly, you haven't felt the need to send your children to a better place, due to the poor conditions of which you and your family live.
If the US of A can invade and take over a country half a world away, there is no reason why we can’t take over Mexico next door and remove their corrupt, cartel infested government, and put in a new. Mexico has all the resources to become a sustainable/prosperous country. Give the power to the Mexican people, and they won’t want to come to the United States.

It’s not rocket science..!



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: Propulsion
Cant do that when we help that gov run the drug trade out of that country.



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 03:35 PM
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a reply to: neo96

lol neo calm down.

I don't think you've gotten the point, whatever this influx of immigrants is, a large portion of it was likely an unintended side-effect of a law passed in 2008, one that was specifically designed to reduce child trafficking.

So argue that you want this law ammended or repealed, that's all you have to do.

it seems obivious, but there usually is a fear of looking "pro-child-trafficking" when doing that.



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: neo96


WHO IS THE GUY WHO HAS BEEN PRESIDENT for the LAST GD 6 YEARS ?


Obama, and for the last 6 years he has been dealing with the influx of immigrant children at the border due to the passing of the law Bush signed in 2008. This has been a problem now for 6 years, and it is exactly why Obama advertised for those escorts and busses - to deal with the problem. (it's actually been ongoing since 2002... but I know little facts like that are taboo in one of your propagandist posts.)

As usual, you perpetuate the right-wing echo chamber's myth that this problem is somehow exclusively Obama's, ignoring the very law signed under Bush that originated it. Even so, as long as the law stands, the US will continue to receive unaccompanied minors from Latin America. It happened under Bush, but the MSM and right-wing pundits didn't care enough to gin it up into a scandal so long as their boy was in office.

Obama has been passing measures to expedite deporting the children. Not that wingnuts will ever acknowledge that, when it's easier to play blame games and pretend this is all part of his Communist/Marxist/Kenyan/Islamist conspiracy.

Enjoy your one-sided topic.



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Refresher course 101

They are even using "selective" parts of that "Bush" law from 2008 to make the whole thing look "Legitimate", while of course using their "selective" and "de-selecting" tactics on existing laws.

Now we know why we saw the onslaught of "favorable to Obama" immigration/deportation news all over the place well in advance too. (except for the ultra high release of criminals rate that was well hidden in official reports) that is.




posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: NonsensicalUserName

I don't think so.

A law that has been around FOR SIX GD YEAR is now suddenly the BLAME.

The current administration gets off scott FREE LIKE USUAL.

Someone want to tell my WHY they haven't been coming non stop in the current numbers for 5 YEARS BEFORE NOW ?



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer




As usual, you perpetuate the right-wing echo chamber's myth that this problem is somehow exclusively Obama's,


WHAT MYTH ?

Isn't Obama the current potus ?

You know the guy who was 'elected' to run this country ?



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: neo96

The law, passed by a Republican congress and signed by a Republican president in 2002, is the reason WHY these children are not being deported back to their country of origin.

Bush renewed the law again in 2008. The influx of children began in 2002 but increased dramatically in 2008 and every year since.


WASHINGTON (AP) — Thousands of immigrant children fleeing poverty and violence in Central America to cross alone into the United States can live in American cities, attend public schools and possibly work here for years without consequences.

The chief reasons are an overburdened, deeply flawed system of immigration courts and a 2002 law intended to protect children's welfare, an Associated Press investigation finds.


Source: bigstory.ap.org...


Adult immigrants caught crossing the Mexican border illegally are generally removed from the U.S. within hours or days of their arrest. But a federal law dating to President George W. Bush's administration requires that unaccompanied child immigrants must be turned over to HHS within three days. From there, many are reunited with parents or other relatives already in the United States or other sponsors before the lengthy court process beings.


This is the law that has the current administration hamstrung. Where is the worthless Congress in all this? They have ignored the immigration crisis. THEY - not the president - have to rewrite or write a new law to deal with reversing the loophole created by Bush's law.

This post is so indicative of the type of skewed propagandist narrative coming from Republican mouth pieces like Rush Limbaugh. I thought the goal of ATS was to deny ignorance, not be led around by the nose by party politics.

The real scandal belongs to Congress. They've done absolutely nothing about this issue, even though it's been unfolding for several years now.



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: RancorXXX

Just stop.

JUST STOP!

SInce when has LAW mattered to the current administration ?

WHEN ?

For the last 6 YEARS it has been picking and choosing when LAW mattered, and when it doesn't.

The effing cognitive dissonance here is AMAZING.

Won't enforce immigration LAW!

Enforces' W's so called 'LAW'.

What a JOKE!



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Interestingly he has had 6 years to use his pen and phone to change any law and border situation he wanted. And the ever so lovely Mrs Feinstein said as much, putting it back on the WH. Are you saying he just hasn't got to it yet and is a slow worker? Could it be he didn't know about this and was waiting for the news to inform him? Or is this just another ploy to try to blame a president that hasn't been in office for 6 years?

At what point would you say Obama has to accept responsibility for the office he holds? After his two terms or sometime before? He better hope a democrat is elected president because the blame game will set the republic back decades. Because now there is some serious blame to go around.



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: MarlinGrace




At what point would you say Obama has to accept responsibility for the office he holds


Never.

Apparently he is never responsiblity for anything he does.

No matter what it's GW's fault.



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: neo96


Isn't Obama the current potus ?


Again, the law passed in 2002, 2008 is what is keeping these children in the US.

Congress is what passes the laws. Maybe you should be asking, where is Congress in all this? If a law they wrote in 2002 is the root of this problem they should actually show up to work once in a while and do something about the immigration issue.

Instead, they bury their heads up their collective anus' and go on blaming Obama even as he is hamstrung by their law. (thanks for the tip Rancor).

PS: I personally don't blame Bush for this, as the law WAS intended as a humanitarian effort to fight child trafficking. The unintended consequence has been a lot of children piling up at the border, and by law permitted to stay, courtesy of G.W. Bush and the 107th Congress. That said, Obama is required BY LAW to allow these children to stay. YET, the RW media talking heads insist that somehow, all this should be blamed on Obama.

Tell Congress to get to work on writing a law to remedy this situation, then let's see if Obama signs it or not. Until then, he, and the United States, are required by their own laws, to keep the children here.



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: RancorXXX

Your story fails to actually name which law from 2002 you are talking about.

Which one are you referring to ? (If you know that is)


I need to analyze it to determine how Obama is exploiting it. Obama has a "history" of stealing ideas and changing things to his own benefit.




posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 04:10 PM
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Again, the law passed in 2002, 2008 is what is keeping these children in the US.


So what ?

REALLY ?

The left took power in congress in 2006, held both houses until 2010.

Took the presidency from 2008 to 2010 hold all 3.

So why didn't someone take care of that 'crappy' LAW eh?

They are the ones who renewed IT.

The Democratic majority in Senate at the time of it's renewal could have killed it THEN.

But nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Blame GW, and the republicans!

What EVER.
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posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: neo96
neo first you accuse the obama administration of breaking athe law, then you say that obama isn't breaking the law enough.

a reply to: MarlinGrace
what does feinstein know?
hell what do most of those useless senators know about anything,

harry reid, nancy pelosi, ted cruz, feinstein, heck Rand Paul even; all the damn same; mostly looking out for their constituents at the expense of everyone else,



posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: NonsensicalUserName

What ?

Hey ?


Violent MS-13 Gang Members Leave Graffiti on Bathroom Walls of Nogales Border Patrol Processing Center

Those people are not 'refugees'.

They sure the hell are not 'victims' of sex trafficking.

Pretty damn obvious that some are trying to make that law 'apply' here.

When it CLEARLY doesn't.
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