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Obama Advertised In JANUARY For ‘Escorts’ To ‘Resettle’ 65k Illegal ‘Children’

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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

What part of "manufactured crisis" do you not understand?

The actions are deliberate, it should be obvious to anyone now. The exodus from south and central America north to the USA would not be happening if immigration LAWS were being fully enforced. Children are not being deported.

Create the problem, and force the solution.




posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 09:38 PM
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Shock - horror - a government had to provide for this service, and so someone did some work to figure out a possible number and then made a best effort to actually do what they needed to do to cope with that number!!

But it must be evil because Obummer!




posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 09:39 PM
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originally posted by: eisegesis

I ask a single question to anyone willing to answer...

Do you think Obama is deliberately letting illegal immigrants into this country?


Yes. Whether you believe this was staged or not, the ad proves that he knew they were coming. So if he was preparing to take them in, rather than preparing to turn them away, then he is deliberately letting illegal immigrants into this country.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: eisegesis

What part of "manufactured crisis" do you not understand?

The actions are deliberate, it should be obvious to anyone now. The exodus from south and central America north to the USA would not be happening if immigration LAWS were being fully enforced. Children are not being deported.

Create the problem, and force the solution.


Yes, I understand that.

Nobody is forcing you to read my posts but it seems that you aren't. Do a brief background check before you assume that I do not understand. I basically said exactly what you accuse me of not understanding on page one.
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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: Bilk22
I'd like to see Perry order the National Guard to the border. I wonder if he has to cohones to do so?


I watched the press conference held after he called the White
House and got crickets. I've never seen him that pissed.
No-fly imposition/extortion from DC or not, this guy might
bring up the "S"-word to the General Assembly again.
Desparate times call for a big stick. I hope he's got one too.

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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: eisegesis
I ask a single question to anyone willing to answer...

Do you think Obama is deliberately letting illegal immigrants into this country?

OR

Do you think there has been a natural surge of immigrants from other countries and He is truly asking congress for help or believes in a necessary executive order because it is out of his control?

I am so curious on the stance of some ATS'ers


Because if you don't like the electorate then you change the electorate by taking the immigrants as you say and put them in republican districts. Pretty simple really tilt the districts to favor your party. BTW they are only immigrants because they are being fast tracked by the administration. Another illegal act by the administration, they once again are ignoring existing law.

Just like the constitution and the law if you don't like them just ignore them, they know it takes big money to go through our court system. Thats why it just makes me smile over Hobby Lobby, they thought they could ignore another and HL held their feet to the fire. The followed the law used the system properly, unlike the current administration, and the sad part is they have been the ones that are portrayed as the bad people with the bad company.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:18 PM
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The problem lies in the fact that you can't read Obama. A confusing whirlwind of befuddlement. Flip flops on a millipede.


Under this President, there have been roughly 2 million deportations, a number that far exceeds that of previous administrations and led the head of the National Council of La Raza to dub him "the deporter-in-chief."

Again, this contradicts the very thing we are discussing.


Last year, the Senate passed a comprehensive immigration reform package -- which includes a citizenship path for an estimated 8 million of the more than 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Does Obama want strict border control or not?

I am inclined to think He his playing us for fools. While I agree that sending them to Republican states will help offset the balance, at this point it doesn't seem that significant yet.


"If you refuse to give the President a bill he can sign because you do not trust him to enforce immigration laws ... he will act without you," Gutierrez, a Democrat who hails from the President's home state of Illinois, said on the House floor this month.


Enforce the laws we currently have to determine if they work or not.


"He has alternatives under existing law. There are concrete ways within existing law to help keep families together and spare U.S. citizens from losing their wives, their husbands and their children to deportation. In spite of your lack of action," Gutierrez said. "And I believe the President is going to use those tools. I saw it in his eyes when I met with him."


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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:30 PM
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originally posted by: eisegesis
The problem lies in the fact that you can't read Obama. A confusing whirlwind of befuddlement. Flip flops on a millipede.


Under this President, there have been roughly 2 million deportations, a number that far exceeds that of previous administrations and led the head of the National Council of La Raza to dub him "the deporter-in-chief."

Again, this contradicts the very thing we are discussing.


Last year, the Senate passed a comprehensive immigration reform package -- which includes a citizenship path for an estimated 8 million of the more than 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Does Obama want strict border control or not?

I am inclined to think He his playing us for fools. While I agree that sending them to Republican states will help offset the balance, at this point it doesn't seem that significant yet.



Maybe the only reason there have been more deportations under Obama is because of the rise in illegal immigration, not because he is encouraging enforcement of the law.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:37 PM
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Maybe the only reason there have been more deportations under Obama is because of the rise in illegal immigration, not because he is encouraging enforcement of the law.


That and possibly cooking the books.

We have no way of verification other than their own "official" reports.




posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: eisegesis
The problem lies in the fact that you can't read Obama. A confusing whirlwind of befuddlement. Flip flops on a millipede.


Under this President, there have been roughly 2 million deportations, a number that far exceeds that of previous administrations and led the head of the National Council of La Raza to dub him "the deporter-in-chief."

Again, this contradicts the very thing we are discussing.


Last year, the Senate passed a comprehensive immigration reform package -- which includes a citizenship path for an estimated 8 million of the more than 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Does Obama want strict border control or not?

I am inclined to think He his playing us for fools. While I agree that sending them to Republican states will help offset the balance, at this point it doesn't seem that significant yet.



Maybe the only reason there have been more deportations under Obama is because of the rise in illegal immigration, not because he is encouraging enforcement of the law.


Look at the math like this...For every two illegal aliens Obama has sent back, He accepts one. He tried to get the illegals that came through under the Bush administration a path to immediate amnesty but failed.

Rumors of U.S. haven for families spur rise in illegal immigration


Ramos became part of an unprecedented surge of families crossing illegally into the U.S., drawn by reports circulating throughout Central America that parents with children are allowed to stay in the United States indefinitely, according to Guatemalan consular officials and parents who are making these trips. But these families, U.S. officials say, are getting only half the story.


The unusual situation represents not a change in policy but an attempt to accommodate the unexpected numbers, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials said. Immigration authorities have recently opened shelters on military bases in Texas and California for the wave of children crossing the U.S. border in ever-greater volumes in recent months. Detention centers are available for adult immigrants. But there are no similar facilities for families, at least in the Southwest.

The only law that is currently allowing this is that if your are a minor crossing the boarder, your case must be heard before you can be deported. That process may take YEARS...


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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:47 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

If I'm not mistaken, the criteria for what qualifies as a deportation was changed to include those who are turned away at the border. Its a deception tactic similar to what he did with the unemployment numbers.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

We apologize for the delay Mr xuenchen, unfortunately the reports and documents you are seeking were being stored digitally and the system hard drive they were stored on crashed. They are irretrievable.


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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 11:04 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75
a reply to: eisegesis

If I'm not mistaken, the criteria for what qualifies as a deportation was changed to include those who are turned away at the border. Its a deception tactic similar to what he did with the unemployment numbers.



Obama is good at making fudge. Gosh darn those numbers look low! Too bad they only represent the number of ACTUAL deportaions and don't accompany the amount of tax dollar we spend for their vacation stay or artificial votes they account for before heading home.


The number of immigrants under 18 who were deported or turned away at ports of entry fell from 8,143 in 2008, the last year of the George W. Bush administration, to 1,669 last year, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement data released under a Freedom of Information Act request.


As it now stands, the 2008 law guarantees unaccompanied minors from those countries access to a federal asylum officer and a chance to tell a U.S. judge that they were victims of a crime or face abuse or sexual trafficking if they are sent home. If the claim is deemed credible, judges may grant a waiver from immediate deportation.


Here, look at this bar graph...while I introduce you to my new adopted cousin Juan Ramirez.


The previously unavailable deportation data are likely to fuel the political debate over whether Obama administration policies are partly responsible for the 52,000 children and teens who have surrendered to or been caught by Border Patrol agents since last October, spurring fresh concerns about U.S. border security and immigration law

Results are.....inconclusive...pending a court hearing.


"Word of mouth gets back, and now people are calling and saying, 'This is what I said'" in court, said a senior U.S. law enforcement official, who was not authorized to speak on the record. "Whether it is true or not, the perception is that they are successfully entering the United States....That is what is driving up the landings."

Source

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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 12:07 AM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: St Udio
indeed... the Obama administration engineered this 'crisis' back in January 2014....

in fact they advertised for mass relocation vehicles, 'sponsors'...
but the fact is that the majority of under 18 minors are 11-18 y.o. gangbangers of MS13 notoriety
and not the innocent pre-school and pre-teens the MSM likes to saturate the news stories with...

this whole administration, MB's and all need to be prosecuted for treasonous acts & conspiracy..
this campaign ain't for a democrat voter base for the next 40 years (as the misdirection propaganda suggests)
the whole reason for the flood of illegal minors has to do with bankrupting the nation with needed containment of these rebels, a welfare state reliant on the government DHS...(the brown-shirt private army of the chief executive doing the WH bidding)


More things come across that border than just 'innocent' kiddies.

Drugs,gang members,arms, etc.

I wonder why they leave that out?

Thanks for posting that.


Maybe the nuclear material that mysteriouslly disappeared?



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 12:14 AM
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a reply to: sicksonezer0
They leave that out because they have an agenda, and that agenda is NOT in the best interest of the American Citizen...
It is in the best interest of the Globalist Agenda that they are PAID to promote...

Liberals are way more effective at showing only PART of the big picture... sure, elements within the conservative side are playing their part, but they mostly just let it happen because they too are taking orders from the Globalists that are intent on destroying the sovereignty of this once great nation...



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 12:16 AM
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I am actually convinced that a lot of you are intellectually disabled.

This is the last time i will reply to this thread, as most of you fail in providing any significant rebuttal. All i get are assertions which cannot be bolstered by evidence. When i call it, members just forget their claims even existed. Pathetic.

The only reason why this ad exists, is because a branch of the DHS is looking to hire escort services (to escort potential immigrants).

The only reason why the estimated number of 65,000 exists, is because the government bodies involved, have most probably analysed the situation and came to a conclusion on how many people they could reasonably expect to arrive on the border. Not because Obama, being that damned Democrat that he is, is secretly conspiring to let them all in for votes down the line.

Seriously, you guys need to let go of these biases and actually look at the situation objectively.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 12:18 AM
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This is the last time i will reply to this thread
a reply to: daaskapital

Do you promise?

2nd


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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 12:25 AM
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originally posted by: daaskapital

The only reason why this ad exists, is because a branch of the DHS is looking to hire escort services (to escort potential immigrants).

The only reason why the estimated number of 65,000 exists, is because the government bodies involved, have most probably analysed the situation and came to a conclusion on how many people they could reasonably expect to arrive on the border. Not because Obama, being that damned Democrat that he is, is secretly conspiring to let them all in for votes down the line.

Seriously, you guys need to let go of these biases and actually look at the situation objectively.


How are they able to analyse anthing when the problem didn't really exist when the requisition was posted?!?! I know you want to defend your comrades, but I think its pretty clear what is going on.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 12:33 AM
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Seriously, you guys need to let go of these biases and actually look at the situation objectively.


Oh ?

Here is an objective opinion.

The law is being broken, and instead of that being discussed some would rather disparage ATS posters because the have a different view.

There is nothing political there.

Except because of political bias the LAW is being willfully IGNORED, because they current regime from modor can benefit from it.
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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 01:03 AM
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originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: xuenchen

We apologize for the delay Mr xuenchen, unfortunately the reports and documents you are seeking were being stored digitally and the system hard drive they were stored on crashed. They are irretrievable.



I know I know.

And the back-ups were only kept for 6 months !!





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