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originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: pl3bscheese
I think "targeting" individuals is a bit of a moot point.
Given that the software searches for a long list of keywords . . . and stores whatever communications, sources and destinations of that communication . . . regardless . . .
INDIVIDUALS don't necessarily have to be "targeted" in the traditional sense to be caught up in the vast dragnet.
originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: BO XIAN
Who? The NSA?
Why do you think the NSA has tech that is 50 years ahead of the corporate sector in 2014. Just cause?
Times have changed. The government's deep black ops likely still is ahead of many private endeavors, but by how many years, I don't know.
NSA isn't deep black OPs. It's fairly well known now, and they use regular technology that most anyone can get their hands on for the right $$$
Now, as for keeping "tabs" that's different from being, "targeted", wouldn't you say? Clarity of terminology, and it's correct application from one context to another, is essential. Within the context of the 1 main link (of which the rest use as a source), the targeting is on an unknown amount of Americans, likely very minute. That's different from keeping "tabs" and logging it into a database to search via algorithms for suspicious key words and activities.
Look, if you're trying to say you fear some sort of AI superhive with agent cyborgs of the next generation or so, tapping into all this info that's now being stored, I'd have more empathy, but trying to get flipped and feel that we're all being targeted from actual agents, is just not possible.
originally posted by: GArnold
a reply to: pl3bscheese
Ok..Not foreign Terrorists.... This is a sample size obviously. If it is a sample size then in general I would say out of every 10 people being intercepted... 9 out of 10 are ordinary Americans. The Post received 160,000 accounts. Happy now? I changed the title to reflect the mistake.
I meant 9 out of 10 people whose files were received by the Wash Post are ordinary Americans.
Nine of 10 account holders found in a large cache of intercepted conversations, which former NSA contractor Edward Snowden provided in full to The Post, were not the intended surveillance targets but were caught in a net the agency had cast for somebody else.
Many of them were Americans. Nearly half of the surveillance files, a strikingly high proportion, contained names, e-mail addresses or other details that the NSA marked as belonging to U.S. citizens or residents. NSA analysts masked, or “minimized,” more than 65,000 such references to protect Americans’ privacy, but The Post found nearly 900 additional e-mail addresses, unmasked in the files, that could be strongly linked to U.S. citizens or U.S.residents.