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originally posted by: DarknStormy
It doesn't work like that, you don't simply discredit something because it doesn't fall in line with scientific evidence..
The Bible suggests that the Flood encompassed the entire world. Using your Pando tree's that were around 80,000 years ago, the idea that the Biblical flood did in fact encompass the world is highly unlikely. But that doesn't mean there wasn't a flood.
The Bible isn't speaking about the Flood encompassing the world,
originally posted by: xavi1000
originally posted by: buster2010
Yes a video by an ignorant racist is always the best way to back up your statement. The guy is so full of crap he has to wear buckets on his ears.
Truth hurts Buster boy , i know. Radical Islam will fail and Israel will survive and their scientists will keep providing goods for humanity.
Israeli authorities had been searching for two weeks for the youths, one of whom is a dual U.S.-Israeli national. The three, ages 16 and 19, disappeared near a Jewish seminary at an illegal Israeli settlement as they were hitchhiking home in the West Bank.
The bodies of Gilad Shaar, Naftali Frenkel and Eyal Yifrah were found near the flash point city of Hebron, where relations between settlers and local Palestinians have been tense for many years. The IDF said the bodies were discovered by a group of Israeli soldiers and civilian volunteers, only a few miles away from where the teens went missing. The bodies were found under a pile of rocks, according to the IDF.
originally posted by: roth1
The Israelis are he terrorists there. They want all the land around them that has any history of Jews on it in the past 1'000's of years ago. Anything referenced in the bible or the Jewish book. They don't have that right. Anymore than the American Indians can kill and take back their lands. Or the Mexicans to kill and take back Texas, New Mexico, AZ, CA. Or me claiming i have history on your land and that i want to come and take it. I need land can i do that? NO!!!! The Israelis need to stay in their defined borders. Actually they need to give up the land they stole and go back to the originally defined boarders when Israel was created after Hitler.
originally posted by: DarknStormy
Your not a spiritual person, are you? Going by your literal logic, We should be standing on the shore of the ocean waiting for a four headed boogeyman from the book of revelation.
originally posted by: Astrocyte
a reply to: xavi1000
umm, yeah. When talking about Muslims in America and Muslims elsewhere I wish it could be made mandatory that people preface the conversation with the point that the context - the field in which people function - determines the particular. Its a basic point of logic, and of psychology, that people submerged in the fervency of their own political views should be reminded of.
Muslims in America will probably evince qualities and ways of being consistent with American (and western) thinking. Conversely, Muslims from Muslim countries will express the dynamics of the society they inhabit, and thus the thinking patterns of traditional Islam.
Differences exist because each society has their own unique history. And when we make these cross-cultural analyses, we have to see it as somewhat of a voyage to a different world, a different planet, where what matters to us and is seen as important to us - say, equality, tolerance and other 'feminine' values' - do not apply and in many cases are actually look upon with contempt.
The problem of Islam and contemporary Islamic society, in my view, is a flagrant chauvinism. This issue is not so great in the west, for obvious reasons. We've liberated women and have allowed their own intellectual attributes to influence the subsequent course of cultural development. So, in Israel, for example, it would be seen as unconscionable that a 15 year old Palestinian/American boy could be beaten as he was by Israeli soldiers. The soldiers will be tried and held accountable for their actions - because a certain type of behavior, values and awareness - compassion - is expected by Israeli society.
Will anything comparable be felt by Palestinians? No. They're infected by the chauvinistic thinking of traditional Islam. Until Islam undergoes major reform - within Arab/Muslim societies - we will continue to bear witness to prolific injustices against non-Muslims without much backlash from within their own societies, and with the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the history of the Jewish people and THEIR OWN attachment to the land of Israel (or palestine) will continue to go unnoticed, as water poured into a perforated container, the Palestinian can't seem to pay notice to any persons (or peoples) plight but their own.
Both sides of course should come together. But only one side is honest and mature enough - Israel - to abide by the morals of our modern world.
And should this not be obvious? It's simply cause and effect. The Arab-Muslim society prohibits the type of thinking that has propelled our world closer to a place where differences in religion, ethnicity or sexuality matter less than acknowledging what unites: the facts of our being human, of experiencing the same human realities. The beauty of living. The beauty of nature. Etc. The systems of view of things, to put it succinctly.
Islam really is the biggest social problem facing our world today. It comes behind climate change, which I see as the biggest problem. But it's a close runner up. It complicates our situation, no doubt.