Jewish Extremism (Zionism) - The Other Side of the Coin "Death to Arabs"

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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:02 PM
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I have noticed an increase in threads which address radical Islam over the last couple weeks without much acknowledgement that all religions have their extremists so I thought I would share this video to shed light on Jewish Extremism or radical Zionism.

Here is a group of Israeli Jews yelling "death to Arabs" among other things while appearing to actively seek physical confrontation with people passing by.

Please note that the video author's views are not mine.

(This video was uploaded Jul 6, 2014)



As we all know tempers are flaring in that region due to the alleged kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teenagers and then another alleged murder against a Palestinian teenager who was beaten then lit on fire in what most people believe to be a revenge attack. His cousin was also brutally beaten later on.

This video illustrates that people will use their religion to justify hatred and violent actions when in fact this most likely goes against their religion. I don't particularly like religion, but I tolerate all of them minus the extremists.

The same goes for Islam, we have seen many videos of people who claim to be Muslim performing heinous acts while using their religion to justify what they have done but when in fact their actions are not what their religion promotes.

So, we have extremists on both sides who are acting against their own religion while using their religion as the excuse to justify their actions - kind of ironic if you ask me...

I've heard the alleged number of Muslim extremists to be 15-25% of the population....

What are the alleged figures of Jewish extremists?

BTW - I definitely disagree that the amount of radical Muslims to be that high, in fact I would consider it to be around 0.001% according to my travels and people I have met. That being said, there is no proper way to calculate these things so those who are throwing around random numbers and presenting them as fact are nothing more than propaganda peddlers with an agenda.
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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:10 PM
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BTW - I definitely disagree that the amount of radical Muslims to be that high, in fact I would consider it to be around 0.001% according to my travels and people I have met.
a reply to: Corruption Exposed

What is the % of Muslims that believe the death penalty for heresy and apostasy are morally just?
Let's begin there with the definition of "radical".



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:12 PM
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I have participated in a few of the recent Arab/Jewish threads and my final conclusion is that there are NO innocent parties involved. That being said, why do Muslims think they have a monopoly on the correct way to worship the Jewish god?
After all isn't Islam just an unauthorizaed spin-off of Judaism?
Maybe Israel should sue Islam for literary piracy.... I mean, I couldn't just publish my own Harry Potter novels. If I did, I certainly wouldn't have the nerve to tell J.K. Rowling how wrong she was or try to kill her with the excuse that my Potter stories were the real ones.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: InverseLookingGlass



What is the % of Muslims that believe the death penalty for heresy and apostasy are morally just?


I don't know the answer to that question, do you?



Let's begin there with the definition of "radical".


Ok, please go ahead. How would you define it?



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: abe froman
^^ Yeah, that. Excellent post.

And may I add this excellent link to your excellent post -
Seagulls Excellent ATS Thread - There Are No Angels
Lots of blame to go around. No group is innocent.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:20 PM
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That being said, why do Muslims think they have a monopoly on the correct way to worship the Jewish god?


I was unaware of this, could you please elaborate? From what I have learned via my research is that Islam tolerates Judaism. I'm not aware of any instances of Muslims telling Jews how to worship their god but I would not be surprised if some of the extremists did in fact say something of the sort. A whole lot of people on each side have been spouting a whole lot of BS lately - regrettably the media is helping fuel the fire.



After all isn't Islam just an unauthorizaed spin-off of Judaism?


I believe they are both Abrahamic religions, but Judaism is much older.

I have unorthodox views about religion. I believe them to be historical events with some truth to them from the past rehashed into stories to help control the people and put fear into them. I believe that religious people have good intentions but TPTB use religion to help forward their agendas - religion appears to have become more of a political movement instead of spiritual in my opinion. What I mean is that religion has been hijacked and disguised for something that it is not.
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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: Corruption Exposed
I don't know the answer to that question, do you?

Sharia approves of the death penalty for so-called 'apostasy' (leaving Islam or saying things not in line with Islam). Tribune.com - Most Muslims Want Sharia ... Split on Interpretation


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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
I have participated in a few of the recent Arab/Jewish threads and my final conclusion is that there are NO innocent parties involved. That being said, why do Muslims think they have a monopoly on the correct way to worship the Jewish god?
After all isn't Islam just an unauthorizaed spin-off of Judaism?
Maybe Israel should sue Islam for literary piracy.... I mean, I couldn't just publish my own Harry Potter novels. If I did, I certainly wouldn't have the nerve to tell J.K. Rowling how wrong she was or try to kill her with the excuse that my Potter stories were the real ones.


Unauthorised spin off???

Ok, I give up. Who authorises these things?

Religion is fiction. ALL religion is fiction. So who authorises fantasy. That is like saying 'Amrageddon' should sue 'Deep Impact'



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: Corruption Exposed
a reply to: abe froman



That being said, why do Muslims think they have a monopoly on the correct way to worship the Jewish god?


I was unaware of this, could you please elaborate? From what I have learned via my research is that Islam tolerates Judaism. I'm not aware of any instances of Muslims telling Jews how to worship their god




I suppose you are unaware of how many people are murdered for either converting from or refusing to convert to Islam.
The goal of Islam is world wide domination. Islam wants to wipe out all other religions. Religious tolerance in Islam is a ruse. Remember that Islam teaches it's adherents to lie to "infidels" to help encourage this.
Also remember that Islam supports murdering anyone who says negative things about Islam.




I suppose you are unaware of how many people are killed for either converting from or refusing to convert to Islam?
The goal of Islam is to cover the world, by whatever means necessary.

I believe they are both Abrahamic religions, but Judaism is much older.

I have unorthodox views about religion. I believe them to be historical events with some truth to them from the past rehashed into stories to help control the people and put fear into them. I believe that religious people have good intentions but TPTB use religion to help forward their agendas - religion appears to have become more of a political movement instead of spiritual in my opinion. What I mean is that religion has been hijacked and disguised for something that it is not.
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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Corruption Exposed
I don't know the answer to that question, do you?

Sharia approves of the death penalty for so-called 'apostasy' (leaving Islam or saying things not in line with Islam). Tribune.com - Most Muslims Want Sharia ... Split on Interpretation



Thank you for the reply but that does not answer their question.

I believe that they asked which percentage - nothing about sharia law.

I will humor you though, perhaps we can start by trying to decide which percentage of Muslims actually want strict sharia law. This would be difficult to calculate though.

Once we confirmed this figure, then maybe perhaps we can get a ballpark percentage?

I will admit that I am somewhat of a novice when it comes to certain religions but have done some research as I am curious to what people worship, and why.


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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Corruption Exposed
I don't know the answer to that question, do you?

Sharia approves of the death penalty for so-called 'apostasy' (leaving Islam or saying things not in line with Islam). Tribune.com - Most Muslims Want Sharia ... Split on Interpretation



And Judaism allows any crime under the sun so long it is not to another Jew. Only Jews have rights in Judaism so how is it any better than Islam.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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a reply to: MALBOSIA It's not. Both have become a plague on mankind.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Corruption Exposed
I don't know the answer to that question, do you?

Sharia approves of the death penalty for so-called 'apostasy' (leaving Islam or saying things not in line with Islam). Tribune.com - Most Muslims Want Sharia ... Split on Interpretation



And Judaism allows any crime under the sun so long it is not to another Jew. Only Jews have rights in Judaism so how is it any better than Islam.


Good post.

As previously acknowledged, all sides have their extremists but IMO Islam is unfairly demonized around the world and ATS. Personally, I could find things I dislike and disagree about in all religions. I'm tired of followers of one religion trying to portray themselves as holier than thou compared to those who worship differently.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: Corruption Exposed
a reply to: InverseLookingGlass



What is the % of Muslims that believe the death penalty for heresy and apostasy are morally just?


I don't know the answer to that question, do you?



Let's begin there with the definition of "radical".


Ok, please go ahead. How would you define it?


I believe that the essence of radicalism is subordinating human life to a meme. Islam and all other religions have their orthodoxy enforcers. In my mind, the number of Muslims advocating death for "mind crimes" is >25%



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:35 PM
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I believe that they asked which percentage - nothing about sharia law.

That goes hand in hand. The question was - What is the % of Muslims that believe the death penalty for heresy and apostasy are morally just? Since that is the law in Sharia, you have to look at how many want Sharia. Then you have to look at each country because each country has different levels of Sharia. It's not a one size fits all answer. So the article was the closest I could get to answering you. Maybe someone else can dive deeper. But I did my best.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:36 PM
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In my mind, the number of Muslims advocating death for "mind crimes" is >25%


Thanks for your feedback.

May I please ask what caused you to believe this percentage to be true?

Is this from personal experiences or calculations from other agencies - or maybe both?

For me, the number is much, much lower but I enjoy hearing other's opinions.
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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: MALBOSIA
And Judaism allows any crime under the sun so long it is not to another Jew.

Wanna' prove that?

Only Jews have rights in Judaism so how is it any better than Islam.

I didn't say Jews are better with rights. But since you bring it up ... yes they are. Jewish women are allowed to leave the home without escort; allowed to drive to a doctors office by herself; there are no honor killings; Jews can leave the religion without being stoned to death for so called apostasy; etc etc ...



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass



BTW - I definitely disagree that the amount of radical Muslims to be that high, in fact I would consider it to be around 0.001% according to my travels and people I have met.
a reply to: Corruption Exposed

What is the % of Muslims that believe the death penalty for heresy and apostasy are morally just?
Let's begin there with the definition of "radical".





Its not that black & white..

While apostasy does carry a death penalty ..

Its hardly ever carried out ..

Firstly many Saudi Arabian scholars have left Islam and are still living live and well.
Secondly you would have to be running around trying to get people to leave Islam creating fitna (chaos @ disorder )
Thirdly it would have to be proven that you don't believe in god ...this is often judged by actions like murder , rape, sideding with the enemy in the time of war ect ect .. These are all conciderd acts of disbelief but that also has to be proven to!
Sins are forgiven disbelief is not and most of this applies under sharia law.

Its very complicated and I am still learning.

My conclusion this far in my studies is that it's equivalent to treason in the USA , while the penalty is death its hardly ever carried out..


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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:46 PM
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I have a question for the members of this thread who are more knowledgeable about religion than I am, hopefully you can help me figure this out.


First off, wouldn't believing that you are "GOD's chosen people" be a form of extremism?

IMO it is a form of extremism due to the fact that you consider yourself to be more important than those who are not part of your religion.

I'm pretty sure that Judaism preaches that they are GOD's chosen people, does Islam preach the same?
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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Corruption Exposed
I don't know the answer to that question, do you?

Sharia approves of the death penalty for so-called 'apostasy' (leaving Islam or saying things not in line with Islam). Tribune.com - Most Muslims Want Sharia ... Split on Interpretation




Lol , always posting from bias sites .. Why dont you ever post anything from Islamic sites?
Every time you try to rebuttle you always use links that are anti Islam.
Why?





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