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Would Jesus have hated on gays?

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posted on Jul, 6 2014 @ 11:11 PM
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No matter who you think wrote the Bible, it has some real deep wisdom. I would say he would not approve of the gays. Marriage is the building block of society. Since gay couples cannot have kids, all their sex is out of wedlock. To be fair, Jesus also wouldn't like most of us either. Since most people aren't virgins when they get married.

Here's the wisdom I am talking about. In America a gay man had about a 1:13 chance of having AIDS. That's with knowledge and protection. Think how fast a desease like AIDS would have spread 2000 thousand years ago. A killer STD could have easily wiped out village in a short time. Personally that's where I think the no sex till marriage came from. Somehow the Bible was protecting us from getting out freak on.




posted on Jul, 6 2014 @ 11:14 PM
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a reply to: thinline

uhm... Jesus said nothing about sex before marriage...

You're thinking of Paul... and the word he used is fornication (pornea), which actually has to do with prostitution..


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posted on Jul, 6 2014 @ 11:19 PM
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a reply to: thinline

No sex before marriage had to do with controlling women's bodies and also as a safety net for women in a time when women had no rights and had to get all support from males. It was assumed that all children belonged to the husband and as such he would have been required to take care of them.

So if a man is in a relationship with a woman and then marries a second wife, obviously the no sex before marriage thing isn't applying to him but to the woman.

Also, historically it's a very recent development that men abstain from sex before marriage and applied to women only.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 01:23 AM
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a reply to: charles1952

And I have great adoration for your seeking of knowledge.

I have discovered at least one thing in my time on this Earth. That is, I am not all knowing. In fact, the great truth so far is that no matter how much I know in this Earthly forum, it will be such an infinitesimal fraction of true knowledge that I cannot even fathom the greatness of it.

I feel I would love to tell you what I have found, but I am aiming to respect OP and the thread's subject as what I have found is in another spiritual arena

I thank you for your kind and generous vision of who I am. I would quite easily say the same of you. You have wisdom, that much is readily apparent.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 01:27 AM
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I am very ignorant about the Bible, so i don't want to speak about things i don't know, or may get wrong.

one thing though is maybe thinking of it as "Human Rights" versus "Gay" or "Straight" Rights, we are as Human(or Alien DNA
) as a Heterosexual
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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 01:41 AM
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Gays or lesbians? Hell no. Transgenders on the other hand.. That's a possibility.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 01:43 AM
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a reply to: ItzShadyT

Why? why would Jesus not like transgender people?
Are they not human also and have the same right to be loved and to love whom they want?.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 09:34 AM
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The name of Jesus and the word 'hate' doesn't belong in the same sentence.

Jesus said to love everyone, not just your friends and family, but also your enemies (Matthew 5:44). Jesus said to NOT resist evil, but if you are slapped on one cheek then turn to the other (Matthew 5:39).

Jesus taught unconditional love, because Jesus said to love your enemies and to not resist evil but instead to forgive. When people do this, life becomes more peaceful. Revenge brings a lot of violence and stress in life.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 11:28 AM
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During his first coming he would have forgiven gays and told them to sin no more. This doesn't mean he would condone it - it means as long as they don't do it again, and follow his commandments, they would be saved. This is exactly what he told anyone else he met who sinned but still sought salvation. (John 5:14, Hebrews 8:12) He would forgive them and tell them to sin no more.

Homosexuality is a sin (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Corinthians 6:9-11, Genesis 19:1-11) Here is a good reference to most of them:
christianity.about.com... exuality.htm

During his second coming he will destroy all life on earth, including anyone who do not cease from their sin and seek repentance. This is in the book of Revelation Chapter 19 verse 21. "And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sitteth upon the horse, which cometh out of his mouth, and all the fowls were filled full with their flesh." This is in reference to Christ, who will be able to kill with a word - hence the reference to his tongue being a sword. The "remnant" are all the last living human beings at that time.

After he destroys the world, he will remake it and resurrect all of his faithful. Revelation 20:12-15 talks about the judgment, Revelation chapter 21 talks about the coming of New Jerusalem.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 11:35 AM
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I just wanted to post to let everyone know that I am still reading and am very appreciative of all input into the thread.

It has been a positive, uplifting thread and it has helped me in defining my sentiments on the topic.




posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 12:46 PM
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"hated on gays"

Why is it that so many have bought the lie that
Love = acceptance and tolerance
Hate = nonacceptance and intolerance
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It's only from having bought that lie that one asks would Jesus "hate on guys". If the above is true, every last person who rejects and shuns pedophilia and pederasty should immediately be labeled a "hater" for example.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: peskyhumans


After he destroys the world, he will remake it and resurrect all of his faithful.


Sigh

what a load...

Whats with you people and this loving Jesus returning to destroy... *facepalm*



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 03:10 PM
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If he's real, no.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Nice idea, OP.

It took me a while to realize that the reason some homosexuals are born gay may have something to do with the environment and beliefs of their ancestors. See bruce Lipton's "Biology of Belief" and how genes express based on these two factors.

Biology of Belief - by Bruce Lipton
youtu.be...

then you have to consider that many occultists use sodomy, in particular, to gain power via demons:

"Gareth Knight, in his book A Practical Guide to Qabalistic Symbolism (1976) states unequivocally that:
"Homosexuality, like the use of drugs, is one of the techniques of black magic.
It is a much more potent way of working than the use of incubi and succubi, which are formed by the fantasies of masturbation.'"

I learned a lot about the transformative power of turning to Christ from former homosexuals:

yt: Former Homosexual Speaks Out Part 1
youtu.be...

yt: Ex Homosexual Testimony / Spiritual Warfare Freedom From Spirits Influencing Thoughts & Desires
youtu.be...

yt: Jesus Christ Saved Me from 27 Years of Homosexuality
youtu.be...



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:54 PM
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first thing is to establish: why is the Bible true:

YT: Lee Strobel - The Case for the Resurrection

YT: The Bible Is True! ~ The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict

YT: Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught

youtube: The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB               

YT: The Forbidden Book - History of The English Bible (Documentary Film)

yt: A Lamp In The Dark:untold history of Bible

The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My mother taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”
--Nikola Tesla

This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent Being.”
--Sir Isaac Newton, Principia, Book 3

Head of Human Genome Project, Dr. Francis Collins, converts to Christianity
"I set out to prove that my atheist position was correct."



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:55 PM
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yt: Jesus: Evidence, ancient historical sources
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Part I: Evidence of the existence of Jesus Christ by Simon Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University. Dr. Greenleaf was one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived. He wrote the famous legal volume entitled, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written. Dr. Simon Greenleaf believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. And he determined, once and for all, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence for the resurrection — Dr. Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion! He wrote a book entitled, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice. In which he emphatically stated: 


yt: The Bible Is True! ~ The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict
www.youtube.com...
yt: Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught
www.youtube.com...
youtube: The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB youtu.be...
yt: The Forbidden Book - History of The English Bible (Documentary Film)
www.youtube.com...
yt: A Lamp In The Dark:untold history of Bible ~ Full Film
www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: beezzer Thought this was pretty neat and says a lot. Most people don't take the beam out of their own eye. Remember let ye who is without sin, cast the first stone. Makes you wonder. Jesus would love them as his own Beezer. Just my thoughts.




posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: Tarzan the apeman.

I applaud you and this pastor good sir...

IF only All Christians understood this simple fact




posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Jesus was a jew. The Jewish religion calls for killing homosexuals in their law. Jesus hated gays.




posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 07:30 PM
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I just LOVE this meme:




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