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The father of a British man who has appeared in a video aimed at recruiting jihadists has said he is "heartbroken" his son left the UK to fight in Syria.
In the film, would-be medical student Nasser Muthana, 20, from Cardiff, urges others to fight in Syria and Iraq.
His father, Ahmed Muthana, told the BBC his other son had gone with Nasser, and that someone must be "driving" them.
UK police are trying to get the film, posted by accounts linked to Islamist militant group Isis, taken off-line.
The 13-minute video, entitled "There is No Life Without Jihad", emerged on Friday and appears to show six fighters - apparently including three Britons - urging Muslims to join the conflicts abroad.
Nasser Muthana's family said they were "heartbroken" he had gone to Syria
Sir Peter Fahy, who leads on the Prevent counter-terrorism strategy for the Association of Chief Constables, told the BBC 500 British fighters were thought to be in the region and that some estimates put the number even higher, with the true figure still unknown.
It has previously been estimated that 400 - 500 Britons have been recruited by the now-outlawed Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis), which has a significant presence in Syria and is engaged in fierce fighting with Iraqi government forces.
The BBC has learned that tracking British jihadists fighting in Syria is now the top priority for MI5.
MI5 are devoting the greatest amount of their casework to tracking jihadists leaving the UK for Syria - and returning,
On Thursday, the UK government "proscribed" five Syria-linked jihadist groups - including Isis - making it a criminal offence to associate with it or give it financial backing.
originally posted by: awakendhybrid
ISIS bewilders me more so than any recent change in the world. Every ISIS thread I've seen on here I've been attempting to gather my actual opinion to little avail.
1) I heard of them all of, what, two weeks ago?
2) And they have millions of dollars and tons of stolen stuff--so much that they have helicopters they can't even fly
3) Now, they are recruiting people across the world and many will probably heed their call
4) It has been readily suggested here that they are a purposeful creation but, what for and by whom?
5) The media makes it obvious that this is bait and they want us to bite hard--this is the most fear-mongering I've ever heard out of MSM
6) On the other hand, MSM is demonizing them heavily...which is also never a good sign either. People might say the bloodshed makes it obvious, but all I see are smokescreens and maybe some reverse psychology.
7) I'm not AT ALL saying I support the kinds of things ISIS is evidently doing, but...and I seriously hate admitting it...at least they're doing something. At the very least, this will be what those who go and join them will be thinking. If their motive were different, and their targets were different we might all actually be cheering them on.
8) When all is said and done, I don't really trust anything I hear about them...but in the meantime we have the MSM screaming that a second 9/11 is just around the corner if We the People don't demand something be done.
9) And if we don't take THIS bait They'll just keep upping the ante.
originally posted by: ausername
Yes, come, join us.... Enjoy beheading and crucifying Christians, heretics, disbelievers, and non-Muslims. Pillage, rape and torture at will. Allah commands it.
Help us build a caliphate. A home where all Muslims can come to prepare for the return of the Mahdi and the time of victorious conquests until the whole world belongs to Islam.
originally posted by: boymonkey74
Thing is I bet plenty more go so many disillusioned young kids whom have no job, no future and they will see this as an adventure and others will tell them God wants you to do it..
Reminds me of the film four lions...Funny though here.
I am sure I have worked with these two fellas before lol.
Thing is while funny I think there are young lads just near me thinking of it....To be honest why the media have given them the podium to spread their message bewilders me.
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: LightSpeedDriver
Those are Constitutional Monarchys, or at least England is. The sitting monarch has little to no power. It's vested almost in its entirety to Parliament.
ETA: Looked at from a certain point of view... The President of the U.S. is closer to being an absolute monarch than the Queen is.
As the meeting concluded CII Chairman Maulana Muhammad Khan Shirani noted that women by existing defied the laws of nature, and to protect Islam and the Sharia women should be forced to stop existing as soon as possible. The announcement comes a couple of days after CII’s 191st meeting where they dubbed laws related to minimum marriage age to be un-Islamic.
After declaring women to be un-Islamic, Shirani explained that there were actually two kinds of women – haraam and makrooh. “We can divide all women in the world into two distinct categories: those who are haraam and those who are makrooh. Now the difference between haraam and makrooh is that the former is categorically forbidden while the latter is really really disliked,” Shirani said.
He further went on to explain how the women around the world can ensure that they get promoted to being makrooh, from just being downright haraam. “Any woman that exercises her will is haraam, absolutely haraam, and is conspiring against Islam and the Ummah, whereas those women who are totally subservient can reach the status of being makrooh. Such is the generosity of our ideology and such is the endeavour of Muslim men like us who are the true torchbearers of gender equality,” the CII chairman added.
Officials told Khabaristan Today that the council members deliberated over various historic references related to women and concluded that each woman is a source of fitna and a perpetual enemy of Islam. They also decided that by restricting them to their subordinate, bordering on slave status, the momineen and the mujahideen can ensure that Islam continues to be the religion of peace, prosperity and gender equality.
Responding to a question one of the officials said that international standards of gender equality should not be used if they contradict Islam or the constitution of Pakistan that had incorporated Islam and had given sovereignty to Allah.
“We don’t believe in western ideals, and nothing that contradicts Islam should ever be paid heed. In any case by giving women the higher status of being makrooh, it’s us Muslims who have paved the way for true, Sharia compliant feminism,” the official said.
The CII meeting also advised the government that to protect Islam women’s right to breathe should also be taken away from them. “Whether a woman is allowed to breathe or not be left up to her husband or male guardian, and no woman under any circumstance whatsoever should be allowed to decide whether she can breathe or not,” Shirani said.
Sorry people, please do excuse someone with alternative views to your media-fuelled propaganda.