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originally posted by: LABTECH767
Instead they should pray for them and forgive them ...
originally posted by: ColeYounger
Until they find a cure for homosexuality, they should be treated just like "regular" people.
originally posted by: ColeYounger
a reply to: yourmaker
I was being sarcastic. Sorry, I thought it was obvious.
“My adult child just ‘came out,’” wrote MacArthur’s viewer, “‘in other words declared to be a homosexual. What do I do?’”
“You know, the answer depends,” answered MacArthur. “If that adult child professes Christ, claims to be a Christian, then that becomes an issue for confrontation of the sternest and strongest kind because that falls under Matthew 18.”
“If that person doesn’t repent and turn, you take two or three witnesses, and confront again. If there’s still no repentance, then tell the church. And if the church pursues it and there’s still no repentance, then there’s a public putting-out of the church, that person who professes to be a Christian. That’s how you deal with that.”
Non-believers, he said, don’t matter. “They’re just acting like a non-Christian.”
However, “if they profess to be a Christian, you have to alienate them,” he said. “You have to separate them. You can’t condone that, it’s inconsistent with the profession of Christ. So, you isolate them. You don’t have a meal with them. You separate yourself from them. You turn them over to Satan, as it were, as scripture says.”
California Pastor John MacArthur said during a recent edition of his “Grace to You” show that parents of LGBT kids should cast them out of their lives and “turn them over to Satan.” Americans Against the Tea Party reported that the pastor was responding to a question from a congregant about parenting a gay child.
Meh. There are jerks and wackos and intolerant a$$holes on both sides of the spectrum. Some crazy Westboro Baptist type preacher running his mouth isn't much to worry about.
Hobby Lobby owners don't simply want religious liberty for themselves. They're aiming to shape an extreme religious agenda for the entire country.
If successful, Green, whose family’s wealth is estimated at upward of $3 billion, would galvanize the movement to teach the Bible academically in public schools, a movement born after the Supreme Court banned school-sanctioned devotion in the 1960s but whose steady progress in the last decades has been somewhat hampered.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: NavyDoc
Meh. There are jerks and wackos and intolerant a$$holes on both sides of the spectrum. Some crazy Westboro Baptist type preacher running his mouth isn't much to worry about.
You're right about that - they're an obvious target and easy to ridicule or dismiss. But, how about religious folk with money and influence?
Hobby Lobby Owners Backed Arizona Anti-Gay Law, Sent Millions To Religious Right Wing Network
Hobby Lobby owners don't simply want religious liberty for themselves. They're aiming to shape an extreme religious agenda for the entire country.
Hobby Lobby’s Steve Green launches a new project: a public school Bible curriculum
If successful, Green, whose family’s wealth is estimated at upward of $3 billion, would galvanize the movement to teach the Bible academically in public schools, a movement born after the Supreme Court banned school-sanctioned devotion in the 1960s but whose steady progress in the last decades has been somewhat hampered.
Those intolerant a$$holes are still the solid, dependable foot-soldiers in a war of ideas. They seem a lot more credible (to some) when there are so many that are actively working on legislating belief into something that will make what they spout seem fair and reasonable
Gay kids still have plenty to worry about in this country
originally posted by: ccross
Similarly people tend to think that we cannot judge anyone. We ABSOLUTELY are called to judge actions, we just have no business judging the condition of anyones soul. It is weird to me that so many people think that Christ would have been an enabler and not called anyone on their sins, in other words they think he would have been "politically correct".
I don't know if what this guy is saying is good or not. All I am saying is that IMO he is not as far off as most seem to think.
You can't shut down the hobby lobby dude without some collateral damage to the first amendment and the freedom of speech, so the only thing to really do is exercise freedom of speech in opposition.
originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: olaru12
You know... I keep trying to picture Jesus turning his back on somebody and I just don't see it. I can't seem to find him bashing anybody except for the judgmental, greedy, and heartless people he rebuked.
I don't know how western civilization did it but we somehow tricked our Christians into acting exactly like the ONLY things Jesus "hated". The illusion itself isn't such a mystery to me; it's the persistent habit of modern Christians to succumb to that illusion that is.