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originally posted by: japhrimu
...Hmm... While typing the above, I thought about the rip a little more, and I wonder why it's the interior wall that was ripped... If it's on the right side, I'd use my right hand to grab it, and I don't think the inside seam would rip, rather the one closer to his right side... That being said, I've totally grabbed something out of pockets with the opposite side's hand, but it usually isn't with too much ease... So, supposedly, he probably ripped it while trying to grab clips with his left hand. ...
originally posted by: defcon5
I'd have to venture a guess that the police tore or cut it searching him.
Cops don't want to stick their hands into someone pocket during a search, especially if they don't know what is in it.....
originally posted by: defcon5
a reply to: WanDash
I really don't follow the SH thing, so I was just making a guess.
Could be something as simple as they were protruding out one pocket and not out the other.
Not everything is a conspiracy, and occam's razor should always be in effect.
originally posted by: WanDash
a reply to: Sremmos80
Too many unknowns (vagaries) to assess the relevant issues appropriately.
I can agree with "could have been"s, as long as they are thus qualified.
If, however, he had gone to the trouble of digging for the clips & tearing the pocket, determined to get them ---- they would have become easily accessible...after the tear...leaving no reason to 'switch to Plan B'.
originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: Char-Lee
actually...if you look at the pants, you can see what look like "reinforcements" for binder paper...they use them to mark blood spatter.
and "ThinkYouSpeak"...if you pay attention to the evidence photos, you'll find that his black t-shirt, and black polo that he was wearing, are soaked in blood...i hafta assume the same is true of the vest is was said to be wearing..but since there isn't a photo of it(it was, for whatever reason, one of the redacted photos), i can only speculate about that particular item. however, given that both shirts were soaked, it can be reasonably assumed that the same would be true of that item.
originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Where is the proof that he walked in with a torn pocket?
Whose to say he didn't rip it when trying to grab them from his pocket.