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Spanish certainly wasn't around at the time of Jesus.
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
Haven't the faintest idea what you mean, old top.
By the way,
Spanish certainly wasn't around at the time of Jesus.
Latin was, though. And Norse wasn't.
The Norse word for 'church', like the English word, originally derives from Greek, not from the word Κίρκη (Circe's name) but from the word κυριακή, which means 'lord's house'.
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
I think it means an assembly. That was the way in which the ancient Athenians used it.
The interpretation 'fraternity' may be stretching it a bit.
Audience, whatever. An object for manipulation and instruction.
Like a Legion or a Fraternity.
originally posted by: Astyanax
But have you thought that 'eternal' punishment could simply consist of being frozen in time, in a state of unbelievable pain and misery?
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
Audience, whatever. An object for manipulation and instruction.
Like a Legion or a Fraternity.
An assembly is not the same thing as an audience.
originally posted by: Unity_99
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
If Bad Wolf was all there was, suppose one could think that. But Nazi's and Fascists and Evil doesnt comprehend Love, Goodness, Joy, Nature, Family and all the wonderful things we have here and couldn't even begin to create the system where we can choose Goodness, because they couldn't provide those choices as there would be black and grey, at best on the tests.
Whether you consume meat or dandelions, that idea would mean you would be not just yourself. So what, your stuck unless you decide to quit eating and commit suicide? Oh, are you your body suit? Or something else? Is it just an avatar?
Again, Bad Wolf or top evil dog, isn't all there is and Love would do no such thing.
originally posted by: Skyfloating
originally posted by: Astyanax
But have you thought that 'eternal' punishment could simply consist of being frozen in time, in a state of unbelievable pain and misery?
Sure. "Eternal" in the sense of "timeless frozenness" would make more sense than a state of punishment along an endless linear timeline.
originally posted by: Skyfloating
originally posted by: bigcountry08
you see the flaw in your OP right? you show no proof at all you state no facts only your opinions, also there are many versus in the bible that state hell is eternal. maybe next time before you decide to start a thread you should actually put some time into your thread.
I had sex before marriage. Another guy is a buddhist, not a christian. Another guy stole some money when he was young. Are you saying that the three of us, unless we repent, are going to be in hell forever, with no chance of ever, ever, ever coming out?
Just asking for clarification.
originally posted by: ketsuko
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Repentance is, after all, about realizing how you've wronged others through your actions throughout your life and understanding that you likely, somewhere deep inside knew you were probably risking hurting someone before you engaged in that act. ..........................
Repentance is apologizing on a cosmic scale, not just a local one, admitting that what you did, you shouldn't have done.
......Christ who teachings facilitate repentance and help us to recognize what we need to do and how we should act toward ourselves and others to minimize sin
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originally posted by: AfterInfinity
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: AfterInfinity
You mean a dictatorship.
If God made everything .. and He's all powerful .. then yes, a dictatorship. Why? Did you think that, as a created organic being, that you'd have more say over what eternity is then the One Who created it and Who runs it?
Think about it ... if you don't like God then why would you want to spend eternity in His Home with Him running things? You wouldn't, right? Therefore, you'd want to be as far away from Him as possible. That's Hell. And you'd be happier there then in Heaven because you wouldn't be in Gods home with God in charge of it.
It works ...
Remember the American Revolution? That was a war fought to establish an independent nation, free of the English monarchy. How about the war in Afghanistan? That was a war against dictatorship. So lemme ask you, if we're busy fighting all these wars against monarchs and dictators, communists and Nazis, why the hell should we accept them in the afterlife? Does dying suddenly make dictatorships less oppressive, or Nazis less cruel?
Also, I edited my other post. Have a look.