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EPA draft regulations released this week mandate power plants cut carbon emissions by 30 percent by 2030. According to the EPA’s own measurements, the new regulations are set to do much more economic harm than environmental good.
The EPA estimates the cost of the regulations at $8.8 billion a year in 2030. The product? An EPA estimated warming prevention of .03 degrees Celsius by 2100. In other words, consumers will pay $616 billion more in energy costs for what the government claims will prevent warming of .03 degrees Celsius in 86 years– hardly a worthwhile expenditure even if we are to take the EPA at their word.
Speaking of taking the EPA at their word, it is important to note the disingenuous manner in which they present the cost of their regulations. In estimating the consumer cost at $8.8 billion per year, they assume in their calculations that U.S. energy usage will decline substantially as consumers and producers become more “energy efficient.” That is to say, the EPA assumes that with the added pressure of their government induced energy price increases, consumers will purchase products that require less energy consumption (energy efficient refrigerators anyone?) Of course, what they don’t take into account in their calculations is the price of that refrigerator. At the producer level, the cost of making new coal plants comply with the new rules will render the entire industry uncompetitive.
In other words, consumers will pay $616 billion more in energy costs for what the government claims will prevent warming of .03 degrees Celsius in 86 years– hardly a worthwhile expenditure even if we are to take the EPA at their word. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
The world's most important CO2 monitoring station is recording short term CO2 concentrations above 400 parts per million -- the highest levels found on earth in millions of years.
Already we're seeing the deadly effects of climate change in the form of rising seas, wildfires and extreme weather of all kinds, and passing 400 PPM is an ominous sign of what might come next.
The safe level of carbon dioxide in the atmostphere is 350 parts per million, but the only way to get there is to immediately transition the global economy away from fossil fuels and into into renewable energy, energy efficiency, and sustainable farming practices in all sectors (agriculture, transport, manufacturing, etc.).
While the level fluctuates seasonally and varies across different latitudes, this is yet another sign that our dependence on fossil fuels is out of control.
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According to the EPA’s own measurements, the new regulations are set to do much more economic harm than environmental good. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: MarlinGrace
Good Points.
And I am bewildered by the absence of all the Warmists and CO2ists who should be commenting on these EPA proposals.
The silence is deafening.
Unless they are now re-grouping because of the lack of alarm that these proposals show.
The world's most important CO2 monitoring station is recording short term CO2 concentrations above 400 parts per million -- the highest levels found on earth in millions of years.
Already we're seeing the deadly effects of climate change in the form of rising seas, wildfires and extreme weather of all kinds, and passing 400 PPM is an ominous sign of what might come next.
The safe level of carbon dioxide in the atmostphere is 350 parts per million, but the only way to get there is to immediately transition the global economy away from fossil fuels and into into renewable energy, energy efficiency, and sustainable farming practices in all sectors (agriculture, transport, manufacturing, etc.).
While the level fluctuates seasonally and varies across different latitudes, this is yet another sign that our dependence on fossil fuels is out of control.
originally posted by: jaxnmarko
I live near Yellowstone National Park, just south of Grand Teton National Park. Recently, there was an article in the paper about the dangers of higher levels of Mercury in the fish, even in our pristine waters, very far away from industry. The source of this Mercury? Coal burning. The effects of Mercury? It is accumulative in the body and very toxic. So no, I don't have a problem with cleaning up coal!
All we have to do is poison the bottom 3 miles of our atmosphere and.... we are all dead. It's as simple as that. The earth is NOT unlimited in size and what we do DOES have an effect. We can argue about the level of effect, but when the fish here are getting dangerous to eat, that pisses me off!
To do nothing is foolish. To lead, maybe show the way, and develop new technology and better energy systems..... that sounds like a good idea to me, as apparently we must be forced to do it because we are too stupid to do it for the right reasons.... our own health and that of our kids and their kids and so forth, let alone the rest of the environment! Quit making profit the most important thing of all. We can't live without a safe environment, period.
originally posted by: 727Sky
Myself along with several other posters have over the last two years have said the electric bills will be going up in some states over 30% and that will be just the beginning. When the smart meter was installed in my house in the states the bills double when we were gone for months at a time. Everything turned off and for years before the smart meter the on vacation bill was $39 plus or minus a couple of bucks. The Smart meter was installed and the bill jumped to $79 plus or minus $2.. I dread what it looks like is going to happen in the states over the next 3 years.. 3 years ain't that long folks
It is true India and China are trying to go full bore with power generation...unfortunately they are using an old road map
If I were Emperor I would mandate Alcohol fired power plants along with Alcohol powered ground vehicles. Alcohol can be made from the tons of waste products that are thrown into trash dumps every day. Probably just the potato peals that are thrown away at one of the big fast food burger chains could make enough Alcohol fuel (over 200 proof) to supply a medium size city and all their cars...
Many of the bad things that has been put out about alcohol are inaccurate if not right out lies. Do your own checking and see if what I am saying is true.
No worry folks being an Emperor is the last thing on my wish list.
New EPA Regulations Set to Take Drastic Toll on Economy