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Large number of Chinese troops seen heading for China-Vietnam border

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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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Large number of Chinese troops seen heading for China-Vietnam border


A large number of People’s Liberation Army troops have reportedly been spotted heading towards the China-Vietnam border as tensions between the two countries continue to escalate, reports Hong Kong’s Sing Tao Daily. Sing Tao Daily is generally considered to be aligned to Chinese state media.

Thousands of Chinese nationals living or on business in Vietnam have already fled the country amid anti-China riots, which were sparked by a tense standoff between Chinese and Vietnamese naval ships near a Chinese oil rig in disputed waters off the Paracel Islands in the South China Sea on May 4.

The Chinese foreign ministry confirmed Friday that at least two Chinese nationals have been killed and nearly a hundred were injured during violent protests last week that saw dozens of Chinese, Taiwanese and Hong Kong factories set on fire. The UK’s Guardian claims as many as 21 people have died.

As yet another large-scale anti-China protest was scheduled for Sunday, Chinese netizens reported seeing an “endless stream” of PLA soldiers in full combat gear at Chongzuo train station, apparently on their way to the 97-kilometre China-Vietnam border at Pingxiang city in southern China’s Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region. The soldiers were said to have been accompanied by tanks, armoured vehicles, missile launchers and other heavy artillery.

Pingxiang was where the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1979 began, and locals are reportedly preparing to evacuate the area out of fears of an imminent military conflict.

Last week, Beijing denied that PLA troops had been sent to Guangxi and also denied reports that neighbouring Yunnan province had been put on high alert and escalated to combat readiness levels, but that has not stopped rumours of a military response to the Vietnam riots from continuing.


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I don't even know where to begin...

Its one thing for 2 countries to challenge each other via their navies. Its something else entirely when ground troops with heavy equipment, tanks and artillery, are being deployed.

Since its a maritime standoff I don't quite understand what China thinks its going to accomplish by doing this.

To pressure Vietnam to back off the maritime claims...
To have military forces prepared should China decide to star seizing territory (islands / etc).
To invade Vietnam to bolster their territorial claims while getting access to more resources.

ThoughtS?




posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

To invade Vietnam to bolster their territorial claims while getting access to more resources.
I wonder if the Chinese will be demonized by US mainstream media like they did to Putin.
I doubt it, unless US oil companies have interests in Vietnam.
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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:36 PM
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Vietnam VS. China...... This will not go well. Hopefully people calm the heck down soon but with all that is going on in the world I have to think that a world wide conflict is near.

What a stinking mess we humans are.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:38 PM
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Not surprised. China has been beefing up their military. What did people think they were going to do with it? Sit over their and polish their armor?

Shades of WWII military build ups all over the globe. When the cat is away, everyone else will play.

aka

Wars and rumors of wars.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:39 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

One, China is also a member of the United Nations. War for these purposes, is unlawful. So, any moral high ground they thought they had, is lost. Did they reject what Sun Tzu said?

Two, good luck. China has not learned anything from mistakes made by the USSR and the United States.

Three, the story seems fishy. This would be like the United States massing to invade Puerto Rico.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

China has been beefing up their military. What did people think they were going to do with it?
That is exactly right.
They have plans for hegemony over the entire region, and I don't think it stops there.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:42 PM
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First Russia and Ukraine
Second China and Vietnam
Civilian attacks on Russian and Chineese Citizens, rinse and repeat.

Why? Simple.Both are decoupling from the US Petro.Dollar in the next 24 Hrs.An Amazing coincidence not.Guess we all know who's pulling the strings.

N.A.T.O to VS Russia
US, Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, Japan, Vietnam and South Korea to flank China in the Pacific Rim.Similtaneously in two theatres.
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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:43 PM
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Beware, ATS!

The next step in the "great divide" between east and west is here.

Prepare for double-standards, being applied in the next info-war in 3...2...1...

*and before anyone calls me "pro-chinese" on this one: Free Tibet!
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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

The US had actually beaten the viet cong at the end of the vietnam war and it was the decision of the new president to withdraw the troops that let the north vietnamese recover.
However the vietnamese showed themselves to be devious, cunning and vicious fighters whom were not afraid of fighting a far more powerful enemy so I think the chinese may have made a terrible error here and one that may have repurcussions for generations to come, still the chinese are far less merciful than the civilized american soldiers for the main part definitely were and may stoop to tactic's far worse than agent orange, this may turn into a full war as I doubt that vietnamese will capitulate though it does really depend on the vietnamese generals and there leader but remember they were alligned with communist russia rather than communist china and have ancient cultural grudges with the chinese even though they often share blood lines.

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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:49 PM
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By now its obvious that Russia just showed the world ( China ) that the US has lost its place as supreme power.
At the very beginning of the Ukraine I read a article of some analytically guy who said that the American response to the situation in Ukraine would set a precedent for the future.

And it has happened. Russia just said F U to the US and he's getting away with, Putin is openly attacking the US dominance. And China sees clearly they can do what they want and the USA won't do a damn thing.

Interesting times indeed.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

Wars and rumors of wars.


The astute will deduce and the wise will intuit that things are bubbling hot just under the surface of this mess we call a civilized world.

The increasing pressure of this bubbling will not be noticeable to the average person until the surface containing the pressure, and projecting the illusion of stability, violently explodes and with blinding swiftness sweeps away any and all doubt, that things are not well.


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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:57 PM
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I think its more like we (NATO / the West) showed the world that international law is meaningless - when you have the military strength to be above the law - and THAT set a precedent.

And now the other kids are playing by the same rules...

As always, the party is over, but the bill is in the mail.

Welcome to the age of consequence, Ladies and Gentlemen. Following the era of precedence!

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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:00 PM
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Pepe Escobar has a good piece that might shed some light on the why's as to what we are seeing on the ground "China pivot fuels Eurasian century
By Pepe Escobar www.atimes.com...



A specter is haunting Washington, an unnerving vision of a Sino-Russian alliance wedded to an expansive symbiosis of trade and commerce across much of the Eurasian land mass - at the expense of the United States.

And no wonder Washington is anxious. That alliance is already a done deal in a variety of ways: through the BRICS group of emerging powers (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa); at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Asian counterweight to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization; inside the Group of 20; and via the 120-member-nation Non-Aligned Movement (NAM).



"When the disputes between China and its neighbors in the South China Sea and between that country and Japan over the Senkaku/Diaoyou islands meet the Ukraine crisis, the inevitable conclusion will be that both Russia and China consider their borderlands and sea lanes private property and aren't going to take challenges quietly - be it via NATO expansion, US military encirclement, or missile shields. Neither Beijing nor Moscow is bent on the usual form of imperialist expansion, despite the version of events now being fed to Western publics. Their "red lines" remain essentially defensive in nature, no matter the bluster sometimes involved in securing them.

Whatever Washington may want or fear or try to prevent, the facts on the ground suggest that, in the years ahead, Beijing, Moscow, and Tehran will only grow closer, slowly but surely creating a new geopolitical axis in Eurasia. Meanwhile, a discombobulated America seems to be aiding and abetting the deconstruction of its own unipolar world order, while offering the BRICS a genuine window of opportunity to try to change the rules of the game." "In his 1997 book The Grand Chessboard, Brzezinski argued that "the struggle for global primacy [would] continue to be played" on the Eurasian "chessboard", of which "Ukraine was a geopolitical pivot". "If Moscow regains control over Ukraine," he wrote at the time, Russia would "automatically regain the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia."

That remains most of the rationale behind the American imperial containment policy - from Russia's European "near abroad" to the South China Sea. Still, with no end-game in sight, keep your eye on Russia pivoting to Asia, China pivoting across the world, and the BRICS hard at work trying to bring about the new Eurasian Century."



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:02 PM
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Won't do a damn thing is probably a misreading of the situation. Hesitant to get involved is more accurate. If a major interest is directly threatened or an alliance/treaty is triggered the response will look different, imo.

As with Ukraine, I do not think we have any protective agreements with Vietnam.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: 13th Zodiac

Why? Simple.Both are decoupling from the US Petro.Dollar in the next 24 Hrs.An Amazing coincidence not.
Do you have a link to a news article for that?
How do you know that.
If it is true, that would be pretty serious, as an indictment on corporate power and sabotage.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: CaticusMaximus

The astute will deduce and the wise will intuit that things are bubbling hot just under the surface of this mess we call a civilized world.
These are nothing but mob turf wars on a large scale, since we have national governments totally taken over by hard core criminals.


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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:12 PM
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And that, maybe less than 24hours away



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:15 PM
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Vietnam kicked France's butt, they held their own with the Japanese and they kicked our butt.

If China wants a lesson in humility as a nation? I can think of few better places in the world to get it. I do hope the US stays wayyyyy out of this one. Talk about -not our issue- x's 10. Not specific to Vietnam's claim with China.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:19 PM
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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:19 PM
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last time china and Vietnam tussled it was mostly a draw but i like to think the Vietnamese gave better then they got in the exchange against china and the chinese would do well to remember it

en.wikipedia.org... long history of waring between them with a pretty long period of occupation in the past

en.wikipedia.org...


time.com...

Current Sino-Vietnamese tensions are merely the latest in a series of bitter conflicts between the two countries. The last time Hanoi and Beijing pushed each other to the brink, tens of thousands perished RECOMMENDED FOR YOU The Netherlands Tells Immigrants to Learn Dutch or Get Out Pedestrian Bridge Collapse Caught on Camera in China Man Climbs 900-foot Building, Jumps Off by Taboola Smoldering nationalist anger in Vietnam exploded into frenzied violence in the suburbs of Ho Chi Minh City this week as thousands of rioters swept through industrial parks north of the city’s commercial hub, razing any factory believed to be Chinese owned. After more than two decades of peace, Beijing and Hanoi are at odds again.


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