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Pope Francis says he would baptise aliens: 'The doors of the Catholic Church are open to everyone'

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posted on May, 16 2014 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: 2012newstart
a reply to: SpaceGoatFarts

so you want to be forgiven may be? God forgives everyone.
Just be clear whom you serve from now on...



Why would I ask forgiveness for exposing bulls* and sharing real ufologists findings?

I'm fine thanks



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: SpaceGoatFarts
a reply to: uncommitted


You have to understand the for many Christians in the US, prophecies and scriptures are like super serious business, and most believe that the book of revelation hasn't been fulfilled yet and can only be fullfilled in a near future and that it will totally involve things like WW3 and the NWO and FEMA camps and Aliens colonizing earth and [insert favorite conspiracy here].

It's totally tied together and the Pope is evil and serving the whore of Babylon (AKA catholic church) and is now working with the NWO to prepare the public for alien/demon invasion and globalist/socialist/communist worldwide tyranny etc...

I know it sounds completely crazy like that but it's completely real because prophecies totally predicted it. And the fact that people have been trying to interpret these prophecies for 2000 years and always came up with different interpretations is completely irrelevant.

This time it's totally happening right now, can't you see all the signs around you? If you can't you are a blind sheeple

[sarcasm: off]


You are of course absolutely correct, shame on me and you for bring common sense and pragmatism to this discussion.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: SpaceGoatFarts

But I also think people would learn more if you shared the findings of the real ufologist like Friedman, Vallée or Hynek.

And not stupid fake youtube video.



OK you will present them then! You don't need my permission for that, I am not your boss.

"My vids" are by no means stupid or fake. Even if you disgrace the insiders, the few vids of ET are great.
Bob Dean showed unimaginable big ships. You may not like Bob Dean but the pics are great.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: Arken
The Ancient Pact between the Cabal and the Church of Rome is broken.

"Wonders" await us in the coming years.

The Great Conspiracy is about to be unmasked....


I am very interested in this, i would like to receive some more information, cause i have no idea what are you talkin about.


Well, in my opinion, Francisco is the Black Pope, and its doesnt mean that he had a devil inside ( or yes), its means that he was the jesuits leader, and for me thats enough for understand that he is not a good person. He is playin the role of a "sad clown" like he describes himself when he was selected.
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posted on May, 16 2014 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: 2012newstart
OK you will present them then! You don't need my permission for that, I am not your boss.


I totally gave all the information needed for people to do their research.

Friedmann, Vallée and Hynek wrote many books and reports containing thousands of documented cases with radar readings, testimonies from military officials and others, pictures or films. They are all available widely for those who have the necesarry attention span to stay focused for longer than a 10 min youtube video with dramatic music, bad CGI and wild claims.

There's enough data for a lifetime of analysis.

And almost all three of them came up to 2 interesting conclusions:
- the extraterrestrial hypothesis does not add up
- the field is filled with disinformation from all sides

I'm sorry if I believe them, who devoted their entire life to the truth behind UFO, rather than your vids, Greer the guy making money with his film or Lazar who lied about his job, diplomas and accomplishments.
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posted on May, 16 2014 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhht

And just HOW did Helyer or anyone else human and mortal

VERIFY . . . INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY

that any such critters came from any such star systems?

I suppose we sent the Library of Congress clerk out on his lunch hour to check on his handy little inflatable pocket interdimensional time traveling skateboard?

Or maybe the local rent-a-cop attached an inter-galactic GPS monitoring module to one of their saucers as it zipped by at fantastic speed?

Or maybe a local teen was enlisted to lob a high tech locator spit-wad through an open hatch on the Skinwalker ranch?

Or maybe a 12 year old was tasked with chewing some high tech locator gum and plastering it to one of the support struts during a cattle mutilation?

The Pope and seemingly whole of the Vatican have clearly bought-into the SCRIPT FROM HELL regarding the critters and their role in the END TIMES.

THE GREAT DECEPTION is alive and well at the Vatican.

Prepare ye brains ye 'faithful' for a wholesale "ET" assisted HARD CORE wipe and REBOOT.

Sigh.




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posted on May, 16 2014 @ 10:18 AM
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If even Bo Xian can see how ridiculous the claims in these vids are, that should seriously make yourself question what you post, 2012newstart



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: BO XIAN

Why do you think we are in the end times? Is it possible we are not? People think for 1900 years all the same. I will not go back to history. But anytime people thought it was their generation and they found reasons. We may survive the current crisis and then the children of our grandchildren may find new candidates for the dragon and the beast.

Actually I already have them: Draconians and Transformers (or silicon - metal based creatures similar to the movies). The PR will be human, 666 is a number of a man, says John.

If you fear all of them, both good and bad, you can't guess who is good and who is bad. And how you will resist? By fleeing into a desert? The christians who are honest but uneducated on these matters need people who will tell them who is who. Perhaps exactly you, Bo. God bless



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart

BECAUSE . . . .

even in the 1800's when it was ridiculed up one side and down the other . . . Bible scholars KNEW FROM SCRIPTURE

that the children of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

HAD to return to the Holy Land given them by God. That's still ongoing.

But that was and remains a PRIORITY CONDITION, REQUIREMENT for the END TIMES ERA to be operative.

They've demonstrated this is that era. Once that happened in 1948, the PROPHETIC CLOCK began it's race forward toward Armageddon.

The Ezek 38 war combatants are already lined up as predicted in Ezekiel so many centuries ago.

The list could go on.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 10:47 AM
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What if revelation is already fulfilled 2012?

The best interpretation of that book I ever read is about early Christians, their kingdom, and Nero Cesar being the 666 of the greek bible and 616 the latin bible (did you know it was 616 in the latin version if the text? Did you know end times prophecies were a common practice in jewish literature to criticize their oponents in a veilwd way? I doubt you knew all this because its in books and not youtube)

Nero Cesar

Nron Qsr
The Greek version of the name and title transliterates into Hebrew as נרונ קסר, and yields a numerical value of 666, as shown:

Resh (ר) Samekh (ס) Qoph (ק) Nun (נ) Vav (ו) Resh (ר) Nun (נ) Sum
200 60 100 50 6 200 50 666

Nro Qsr
The Latin version of the name drops the second Nun (נ), so that it appears as Nro and transliterates into Hebrew as נרו קסר, yielding 616

Resh (ר) Samekh (ס) Qoph (ק) Vav (ו) Resh (ר) Nun (נ) Sum
200 60 100 6 200 50 616
Muhammad



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: BO XIAN

that is a good reason. Also the Last generation theory. Still, let remember the duration of one generation wasn't always 70-80 years. It was 120 in Abraham's time, and 900 in Noah's. There isn't anything impossible for God. It is He who decides the times. So even Jesus doesn't know when.

Meanwhile, we have to do our work here and now. Right now, that spiritual work includes to learn as much as we can about the ET (and the Vatican is champion in that). Careful discernment is needed.

If we look for outside features of ET for the two images of Revelation, they are already found. Of course someone may look like angels and to be PR of antichrist as he himself will be good looking, sure his people too.

Anyway, I am offering to you and every devote Christian to listen the 2h radio interview with Brothers Pickering who served in the US Navy and were exposed to unusual experience with exactly those kinds of races. I will not retell the interview, it is full of interesting details. They say, the T-Rex intelligent race are good, don't eat people because they eat something else, and only want to stretch legs on the planet surface (still on a ship). The silicon "hot stones" are much more enigmatic and shape shifters.

Another source, I forgot, it was a radio interview was it Mike Harris...not sure...with Kerry. He named the silicon based or metal based or mixed race to be coming from the galaxy M 51. That info now may seem irrelevant, and the galaxy is very beautiful. He said what we consider non-living matter (metal, stone) could organize itself in life structures, or id someone else say that. it doesn't matter who said that.

You have the phenomena of unending movies that treat the Transformer-like beings pretty seriously. Your kids know of them much more than you do. There are presented good and evil Transformers. There are volumes of transformer-like cartoon movies made most if not all in Japan. You may see also the game Red Alert 3.

So if you are looking for the Daniel's beast of iron you may have to enlarge your horizon and to look at those ET. It is the only animal Daniel asked the archangel about. Because the other 3 were more or less known from earth. Not the 4th, it wasn't known to Daniel so he asked for more info. Is it transformer-like power? Who am I to say, would say the pope and I agree with him.

Let alone Gordon Duff info of "sentient oil" at the bottom of the ocean that was activated by another race from beyond earth (draco activate the beast?) Gordon Duff is a pretty famous person in Veterans today. From time to time besides politics he sends some info like that.

I don't write those things to frighten you and pour oil into your anti- ET feelings, rather to inform you and other readers. Perhaps it won't happen in our next decades of lifetime. But better we know as much as we could. God doesn't want from us something we are not capable to comprehend.

Besides, 2 Peter event of fire burning on earth may come before the End times sequence. I already talked about that. The Earth may be left unpopulated for eons before the life is restored and End times come. That matches Fatima era of peace. That matches a pause in Revelation 12 similar to the pause of Daniel's 69-70 week (parenthesis or whatever name).

Because in Revelation 12 you have a war in heaven/space that may continue longer than 3 days. It may continue 3,000 years. It is de facto galactic war between ETs who are on the side of God and those who are on the side of Satan.

What happens on earth during that time? The woman is persecuted only after the war ends and the satan thrown to earth, NOT BEFORE THAT. The woman gives birth before the war starts at all. The entire duration of the war is a pause for the Woman. Era of peace, here or on another planet, or life on another planet until the earth is restored to life, I don't know.

Let me now go back to put the paragraphs for you

Here is the auio of bro Pickering, a must for everyone who cares for those things.




posted on May, 16 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart

Am willing to watch that video at the end of that post.

I still believe that Guy Malone's panel of scholars have described the best analysis of what the critters are.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: BO XIAN

It is actually audio interview


Galaxy M51 Whirpool galaxy
According to...presumed it was Mike Harris interview with Kerry, sorry if I am mistaken, but it was an interview with Kerry Cassidy...Mike (or another) said the silicon-based structures evolved to such a hi degree that they sustain some unknown form of intelligent life, or is it life at all the way we know it. It was some years ago and it will take me quite a time to browse and listen the records of the radio and find that piece of info. However that may be important at one moment. M51 as beautiful as it is, probably hosts the Transformers from the movies.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart

Am listening to the interview.

I'm still quite firmly convinced that ALL the 'races' are more or less in cahoots--whether the globalists know it or not--in behalf of the END TIMES script as predicted 2,000 years ago.

THE GREAT DECEPTION LIVES.

There's no possible way we can verify anything any of the critters assert. We have no independent way to "get 'there' " wherever THERE is--distance or dimensional.

We have no independent way to assess thoroughly their capacities to manipulate our emotions, our perceptions etc. etc.

not to mention their capacities to set up some variation of a HOLODECK.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: BO XIAN

perhaps we will be given such, soon. You may call it a Rapture process although we will never know if it is the real rapture until we are there, or just a temporal removal from earth.

Notice Bill Ryan (who is now in Ecuador community) his talk about disclosure - which race is fit enough to be shown first. In another interview he asked directly the good ET from the camera: why don't you come to be interviewed. Bill's ex-girlfriend (it is not Kerry!) was an extraterrestrial, says Bill in another interview.

This interview of Pickering is mostly of negative races although they say they are positive. who will say I am negative and come to enslave you. The UN, US, UK, Russia, China and Vatican participation in those meetings in UN as said there, is certain. Another source presented by Michael Salla said such a meeting took place in last years on Pacific island.

So we wait and wait. The NWO doesn't come but the OWO still stands. Wait for what? Certainly al negative races have to behave under some common galactic/divine laws and not to exert any influence for now. They wait for the moment of liberation of at least a portion of humanity. How that will happen, via spaceships or via earthly based upgradet cities, I don't know. The evil ones don't have permission to act beforehand, and that is visible from both Gospel and reality. First is rapture, or first are the good ones to act. It is the rule established by God and demonstrated with Lot and Noah. Only then comes punishment.

I am glad you listen to it, one of the best in the field. There are others. Almost all old interviews of camelot deserve the time spent if you have it!



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: 2012newstart

I can . . . imagine . . .

that there are a variety of NON-FALLEN ANGELS.

I do NOT currently believe that ANY of the "ET" critters . . . in the media--including your audio interview etc . . .

are on the side of Creator God and good.

I guess that's a bottom line, for me.



posted on May, 17 2014 @ 01:08 AM
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first of all we must know that info. It is published in the Public domain so everyone can access it with few keywords. No matter if it is president or fast food worker. That is the purpose of being posted.

Of course we should suppose there is disinfo, and people who deal with the info flow repeat that warning many times (as Kerry C).


So what is it that we don't know and that the pope knows? He wouldn't speak otherwise.

A piece of it, an important one, is all the info that is already available. Dan Burisch and Henry Deacon- Newman are other two names that should be studied.

God knows we know as much and not more. The hard studying ones know as much. God doesn't want the impossible from us.
At the same time, the Bible says:

Hosea 4:6 "my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"



it may not be a safe refuge in a ship. The scenario may develop on the surface of the earth. That is not impossible and is being reported by some. I.e. no global cataclysm beforehand. With the fail of 2012 I don't know which timeline will materialize in the real case scenario.
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posted on May, 17 2014 @ 01:14 AM
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Would love to hear those confessionals...

ET.... " well last week I did 6 anal probes without consent, and mutilated 4 goats "

" Same here.... but without the goats part.... Ok just one "



posted on May, 17 2014 @ 01:30 AM
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Gordon Duff from Veterans today said he had info of incoming 1 billion Nordic Human ET who will populate Africa (probably the desert in North Africa). He said that as something negative. All of his updates on ET topics are rather negative. I see that as something positive. If a benevolent Human ET (Nordic or other) come and settle and establish a model society and start fixing ours, with hi tech and with hi morale, that would be something good. That may avert the doom scenarios. But will it happen?

How about all the rest of info of negatives being here or nearby and waiting for something to happen before they invade us? I just don't know.

The Proton rocket was just shot down. It is clearly visible from the video. ET? Which ones?



posted on May, 17 2014 @ 03:37 AM
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originally posted by: 2012newstart
a reply to: BO XIAN

M51 as beautiful as it is, probably hosts the Transformers from the movies.


This thread is so entertaining.



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