Boko-Haram: We'll Exchange Nigerian Girls for Prisoners

a reply to: seeker1963

I hear exactly what you are saying.

Again, it comes down to semantics. That you care is irrelevant. Calling it a distraction diminishes its importance.

Good to see there are still plenty of people on here more interesed in arguing than actually comprehending.

originally posted by: Destinyone

These goon die hard fanatics who've kidnapped these young girls, will not hand them over to reasoning nor compassion. What do you suggest.

Des

I suggest high speed lead. The sooner the better, less scum to breathe our air. That is all they understand, it is the life path they have chosen.

edit on 12-5-2014 by govmule because: typo

a reply to: WarminIndy

Thats nothing more than political/religious trolling. Plenty of muslim kids go missing every day. No word from our president. Muslim children are killed by his own drone orders. No word from him.

Quit trying to pervert this into a conversation about the president.

Its about the girls.

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: seeker1963

I hear exactly what you are saying.

Again, it comes down to semantics. That you care is irrelevant. Calling it a distraction diminishes its importance.

Good to see there are still plenty of people on here more interesed in arguing than actually comprehending.

Because I care is irrelevant?

Or is it I am not following the propaganda that you are buying into?

Seriously, "Because I care is irrelevant!" I guess you just know it all and know exactly how I feel?

I have explained to you multiple times in this thread "how I feel, and how I care" yet all I get from you is deflection because I am not supporting your belief?

Whatever dude! You have your mind made up and anyone whom disagrees with you is an A hole! I get it!

a reply to: seeker1963

1) yes it is irrelevant. Things like this are about public perception, not individual. That seems a bit complicated to some.

2) what propaganda am I buying into? That 300 little girls are missing?

3) deflection? Are you dense? IVE AGREED WITH YOU AT EVERY POST, outside of the use of the word distraction. Again, good to see there are still some on here more interested in arguing than in comprehending what is being said.

4) Where did you get this a-hole business from? Where did I say anything of the sort?

You might go back and re read our exchange in this thread. Either you are COMPLETELY missing my point, or you are simply doing whatever you can to start a sniping match.

Cool a prisoner exchange, I think Team America can sit this one out as there is a peaceful solution now.


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originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: WarminIndy

Thats nothing more than political/religious trolling. Plenty of muslim kids go missing every day. No word from our president. Muslim children are killed by his own drone orders. No word from him.

Quit trying to pervert this into a conversation about the president.

Its about the girls.

Nigeria receives $335.9 Million a year in foreign aid. But Goodluck Jonathan asked for help from our President who didn't help then. Do you get it now how much he does not care? He cared enough for Malala, who was shot in the head by Muslims. He even gave a speech and address for her.

Oh I had such a rant for you. But get this, what Australia is reporting

Another major obstacle likely is the abysmal human rights record of Nigerian security forces related to counter-terrorism operations. Federal law prohibits U.S. military assistance to foreign military units unless their troops have been vetted for human rights abuses.

"There is a desire to engage with the Nigerian government, but U.S. laws, such as the Leahy law which prohibits military assistance from going to militaries that have committed human rights abuses, have held them back. So there's been frustration with the Nigerian government and the Nigerian military for not implementing reforms," Adotei Awkei of Amnesty International told ABC news.

And here is what Canada is saying

The U.S. government is forbidden under what's called the Leahy Law from providing training or equipment to foreign security forces who committed gross human rights abuses such as rape, torture and murder, until the individuals or units in question have been dealt with.
In March, Amnesty International declared that Nigeria's security forces committed crimes of humanity when trying to tackle the Boko Haram insurgency. UN officials have also echoed concerns about torture and extrajudicial killings.

We give them that much foreign aid, the President can just say we cut that off until they accept help. And here is how little the girls mean to Goodluck Jonathan...

On Wednesday, Nigeria began playing host to the World Economic Forum on Africa.
The country is also one of the largest contributors of UN troops and home to 20 per cent of Africa's population south of the Sahara.

Nigeria, hosting the World Economic Forum on Africa, during the midst of a very political human rights problem. And you wonder why people there don't care. One of the largest contributors of UN troops? And the UN isn't making an issue of this?

Perverse argument about Obama? This is political for him, not a human rights issue. He needs to turn his Nobel Peace Prize back in, because he does nothing to earn it.

originally posted by: Destinyone


Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64; see also Numbers 65 and 88)

A Muslim may say that, contrary to the opinion of Ibn Kathir and al-Shafi, the age of puberty cannot be fixed at fifteen since some girls attain puberty at a younger age. They may further argue that Aisha happened to attain puberty at nine, which means that she was lawful for Muhammad. The problem with this assertion is that it contradicts the express statements of specific Islamic sources that say that Aisha hadn’t attained puberty when Muhammad consummated his marriage with her: www.answering-islam.org...

It's all sickening to say the least.

Des


During the time of Muhammad (7th century) people rarely lived past the age of forty due to water borne and various other human infectious diseases (i.e. Tuberculosis) for which there was no modern medicinal treatment. The mortality rate for children under age one was very high. Sterility by disease, death by wars was endemic in that time around the world. Therefore, the window for marriage was very young, for both genders. Whether talking about the Middle East or medieval Europe, this was the only way society could assure a stable population. Jews, Christians and Muslims all had the same dilemma.

In the light of basic historical contexts, this issue of demoralizing Muhammad is obviously rooted in antisemitism and a deep intolerance for a particular religion. I would suspect that people don't like Muslims mostly because their ideology has no tolerance for western ethics, which allows 12 to 15 year old girls to have sex with men without even getting married.

I doubt that anyone of reason reading this post could disagree that there are no apologetics for the western sex and drug culture, which promotes every immortality against real family values; homosexuality, feminism, pornography, pedophilia and so on.

a reply to: WarminIndy

I get every single thing you are saying, all the way up until you start focussing on the u.s. in this. This isnt on one country or another. Its a worldwide problem, and one that requires a worldwide solution.

To put all of this on the government is to surrender to impotence.

These are the types of things that we, as citizens in the world, can directly affect. These are the types of things where we can put pressure on the people in power to act on.

If people started focusing their attention to bringing awareness to any and all of these types of situations instead of focusing on complaining about the gov't, theyd have no choice but to act.

Instead, we just fall into the trap of moaning like children while they play their games.

And with that, I think ill leave this thread.

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: WarminIndy

I get every single thing you are saying, all the way up until you start focussing on the u.s. in this. This isnt on one country or another. Its a worldwide problem, and one that requires a worldwide solution.

To put all of this on the government is to surrender to impotence.

These are the types of things that we, as citizens in the world, can directly affect. These are the types of things where we can put pressure on the people in power to act on.

If people started focusing their attention to bringing awareness to any and all of these types of situations instead of focusing on complaining about the gov't, theyd have no choice but to act.

Instead, we just fall into the trap of moaning like children while they play their games.

And with that, I think ill leave this thread.

Good morrow to you.

But before you go, just consider this....do you have the power to jump on a plane with a rifle to go to Nigeria and track these girls down and rescue them? Neither you nor I have that power, that's why we entrust the government to do it, because our government is supposed to represent us, not the bad guys.

The day you and I have the power to do this, then let's do it. Until that day though, we are going to have to make it known that our government must do something.

It's all about outsourcing to Africa according to Reinhardt. 20 US companies will benefit from what he call "power Africa" it's worth te read. enronnext101.wordpress.com...

a reply to: WarminIndy
I know I said I was leaving the thread, but I couldnt help but respond to your last comment.

This story is ONLY in the media cycle because of the exact power we do have. It was well over a week after this happened that it became a "big story". People took to social media, among other places, and demanded that those in power pay attention.

So many people have been so brainwashed into thinking they are completely impotent. We arent.

i don't care, drone the f'krs after everyone changes hands.

do it while they are changing hands.

a reply to: tsingtao

What about the 300 hostages? Its my understanding drones fire hellfire missiles(AGM-114). Which to my knowledge do not distinguish between little girls and terrorist kidnappers!

Send in the S.A.S, they will show them how its done!

a reply to: WarminIndy

What the heck are you talking about child molestation and rape if u think thats the status quo of American men your hanging around the wrong circle