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non-sensical, circular questions that HAVE been answered by physists at NASA
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: BlackboxInquiry
Al Gore said about 5 years ago that basically 'if we don't change course and do something' that there would be no ice on the poles in 5 years. Well, guess what? (haha, I said GUESS) - the scientists that were sent up there got stuck in RECORD ICE.
No he didn't say that. I have seen that claim parroted in several threads and it seems you are yet another lackey of the denier crowd who doesn't bother to look up what he actually said and will buy into what other groups have claimed he said. It was two 6 minute speeches he gave in Germany and in neither speech did he make that claim. What he did do is quote two possible timeframe of when we "could" see an ice-free arctic, but deniers latch on to the earliest date them claim he said it would happen. I have even seen sights and articles where they completely misquoted him where a few even had his recorded speech there, but it seems people were too lazy to watch and see what he actually said.
Well guess what? The people who are too !#@! to educate themselves are easy to dismiss..
Or maybe there is a wide swath of people who do not understand the difference between the words could, would, and will.
He said the earliest could be within 5 years but said other reports put it under 22 years. When that 22 year time frame comes and goes and the ice is still just as plentiful as today at that point the deniers can cry Gotcha.
Gore said that on Sept. 21, 2007, "scientists reported with unprecedented alarm that the North Polar icecap is, in their words, 'falling off a cliff.' One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week warns that it could happen in as little as seven years, seven years from now."
Read more at www.liveleak.com...
I don't think there will be a gotcha.
originally posted by: BlackboxInquiry
Just can't stand someone who disagrees with the paid lackeys and scared lemmings?
Here's a thread that you could have some fun in:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
originally posted by: BlackboxInquiry
Independent? Where's their funding come from I wonder- shed some light on it?
Everybody has funding from somewhere, I just wonder what the focus is of those who are funding these 'independent' studies.
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
and for the third time - NOT SOLAR ACTIVITY - sunspot cycles and solar irridesence
www.google.ca...:en-USfficial&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo= u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=SdRrU4bENIidyASy7YGIBA&ved=0CDUQsAQ&biw=1152&bih=711
Why does your graph only cover 13 years - how meaningful is that?
Tired of Control Freas
In order to separate human-caused global warming from the "noise" of purely natural climate fluctuations, temperature records must be at least 17 years long, according to climate scientists.
originally posted by: amazing
“There’s a saying in the scientific community, that every great truth goes through three phases. First, people deny it. Second, they say that it conflicts with the Bible. Third, they say that they’ve known it all along.”
We're in the Denial phase with a little bit of conflicts with the bible. Hopefully soon we'll be in the final stage when everyone says that 'yeah, we knew man made global warming was true all along." Then maybe we'll get off our butts and do something about it. Hopefully.
blogs.scientificamerican.com...
God Controls the Climate, So You Can Relax
I know, he’s just a Tea Party candidate with almost no chance of election, but Greg Brannon, primary candidate for the GOP nomination for the U.S. Senate seat currently held by Kay Hagen, said in a debate the other night that God controls the climate.
And here all this time you’ve thought it was physics.