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Charles Barkley on NBA: 'We are a black league. We are a black league"

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posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: ImaFungi

u mean like this?




posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

Just maybe, all these people have fallen into the danger of becoming what they hate; sterling, probably conditioned to hate blacks, even falling for a black woman who was only with him for money and ended up betraying him.

Much to learn, have they...

s&f


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posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 10:05 AM
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"We're a Black League!" Now just think a second.... If anyone were to say.. "We're a White League".....what would happen? White people shouldn't look so deep into his comment? If any other analyst made a statement "We're a White League" Every black man would lose there f*&(^ing minds. I find Barkley's statement to be very offensive. The NBA is not a "Black League". It's a world wide Men's League....for ALL MEN created equally across the world competing. It's definitely a racist comment by Charles. Yes, there are majority of black players in the league, but that's not what he said. He's trying to put a stamp on the NBA. Trying to label something as an accomplishment by blacks only, or something "blacks" conquered. That's racism friends.. Everyone has equal opportunity now days.....slavery was not in our lifetime. It's time to move on, and stop separating accomplishments for race.

Black Entertainment Television? Now just think a second.. if we had a "White Entertainment Television"... what would happen? ......



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: damion222

Their answer to that is that every channel is white TV. There is also an African-American topix forum. There is no white, Mexican, Asian, etc.. I think people should look at who owns most of the teams. Who most of the higher-ups are. Coaches are some of the highest paid employees in America.



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: ImaFungi

There are 700 million White people, 1 billion Black people(a lot less if Whites didn't help Blacks with vaccination). Whites have contributed a lot more to civilization than Blacks have. Obviously, not everyone is going to directly contribute, however, because of their gene pool, there's a greater chance of that genius popping out than Blacks do.
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posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 11:06 AM
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There is more to this story than what the media is saying. You just have to know how the Jewish mafia operates. I'll give you a quick rundown. The Guggenheim group own the dodgers and want to own the Clippers too. Here's how the did it. Magic Johnson is in the group and his friend is Stiviano who recorded Sterling's comments. Get the mafia controlled media involved and presto you have the clippers. The Jewish mafia is strong my friends.



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: DarthOej

Stormfront people have their arguments(they just don't know how to express themselves as diplomatically as I do).
Believe it or not, not everyone is created equal. That's why you have smart and dumb people, beautiful and ugly people, athletic and non-athletic people. It just so happens that some of these characteristics fall into certain races more than others.

People are so quick to adopt evolution when it goes against religion(leading to more deaths than anything else in history), yet when it implies something about the races, we are supposed to deny it?

What we can all agree on is that everyone should be treated as human beings, but not necessarily agree
that we are all equal, on a genetic level. "Perhaps" you can argue that our ability to reason is what makes us equal(and separates us from animals).



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: theseeker33

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Horsefeathers.

I think Donald Sterling (nee Tokowitz) is more Jewish than Earvin Johnson. If nothing else, I guess this 'proves' Magic usurps Judaism.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: Paschar0
You know, I really thought after several of us pointed out that the this was a PRIVATE conversation made public that more people would see the real problem here isn't that a racist was outed, but was that the NBA, and media (govt controlled) actually succeeded in getting the man punished for it. It doesn't matter what was said, it was privileged and likely illegal for her to have recorded him in the first place without his knowledge. So we condone criminal behavior because we don't like the man. We condone punishing a man for having thoughts we don't agree with. Are some of you that incapable of seeing why this isn't a good thing? The wrong precedent was set, forget about WHAT he said, think about HOW this was done.

ATS has turned into a haven for so many politically correct brainwashed socialist finger pointers that it's barely worth visiting at times and also explains why there has been such an exodus of people I actually liked hearing from. Instead I get to hear the mindless dribble from the likes of "Imafungi" who doesn't even realize how ridiculous and short sighted he sounds.

We can do better. But go ahead and miss the point yet again.


I'm, sorry. I wasn't able to hit the star button more than once. Damn.
Seriously though, 100% agree.
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posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: 7918465230


Oh, did I hit a nerve Mr. Predictable?

Firstly, yeah, that's what all you black people fall back on when cornered. Like I said, predictable.


I am predictable that in if a racist exist I will think lowly of their intellect. You are not intelligent, you cant be a racist and intelligent. The only thing you can have is 'a good memory'. You have a screen in your mind, with lots of folders on it, you can store data in it, you have programs, you can do things with this information, but as a being with a mind and body you are not intelligent, you just have a good memory...remember that.




Secondly, no, that IQ was taken officially in first grade. I don't care that you obviously don't care. Nobody ever seems to admit to caring. That's two things that are predictable, or three if you count the fact I'd knew you'd have your panties in a twist. (lol)


That is one of the most hilarious things ive ever heard. I am currently in the middle of writing a novel and am totally going to use that, thanks! 'Guy 1 gets into an argument. Guy 2, the person hes arguing with uses his high IQ as leverage as to why he should automatically win the argument. Then guy 2 confidently admits that his high IQ test score was taken in the first grade!' ... omg!, I could not have made that up.

Noone seems to admit to caring...You know nothing about me, all you know of me is that I cared about defending an entire race from the mindless banter of racists on this thread.



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: Paschar0
You know, I really thought after several of us pointed out that the this was a PRIVATE conversation made public that more people would see the real problem here isn't that a racist was outed, but was that the NBA, and media (govt controlled) actually succeeded in getting the man punished for it. It doesn't matter what was said, it was privileged and likely illegal for her to have recorded him in the first place without his knowledge. So we condone criminal behavior because we don't like the man. We condone punishing a man for having thoughts we don't agree with. Are some of you that incapable of seeing why this isn't a good thing? The wrong precedent was set, forget about WHAT he said, think about HOW this was done.

ATS has turned into a haven for so many politically correct brainwashed socialist finger pointers that it's barely worth visiting at times and also explains why there has been such an exodus of people I actually liked hearing from. Instead I get to hear the mindless dribble from the likes of "Imafungi" who doesn't even realize how ridiculous and short sighted he sounds.

We can do better. But go ahead and miss the point yet again.


You do not speak for the entirety of the public, you only speak for the racists. Once the information got out to the public, the reaction that the public had took place. Please go protest and picket, go rile up the troops, you are a crusader, you are a hero, you will win the future for the racists.



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: BobAthome
Plies Calls Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Racist in New Song



Maybe Sterling should have , sung his responce's too his girlfriend. Then everything would have been,, u know,, ok.


Everyone in the country has been calling him a racist since this story got out. We call a spade a spade.

PEOPLE DONT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE OF OTHER RACES, UNTIL THEY FIND OUT THAT ONE OF THEM IS A RACIST. THEN PEOPLE CALL THE RACIST A RACIST BECAUSE THEY ARE A RACIST, AND SHUN THEM FROM MODERN CIVIL SOCIETY.



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: damion222
"We're a Black League!" Now just think a second.... If anyone were to say.. "We're a White League".....what would happen? White people shouldn't look so deep into his comment? If any other analyst made a statement "We're a White League" Every black man would lose there f*&(^ing minds. I find Barkley's statement to be very offensive. The NBA is not a "Black League". It's a world wide Men's League....for ALL MEN created equally across the world competing. It's definitely a racist comment by Charles. Yes, there are majority of black players in the league, but that's not what he said. He's trying to put a stamp on the NBA. Trying to label something as an accomplishment by blacks only, or something "blacks" conquered. That's racism friends.. Everyone has equal opportunity now days.....slavery was not in our lifetime. It's time to move on, and stop separating accomplishments for race.

Black Entertainment Television? Now just think a second.. if we had a "White Entertainment Television"... what would happen? ......


IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE SAID THAT HOCKEY OR GOLF IS A WHITE DOMINATED LEAGUE, ITS SELF EVIDENT. IT USUALLY DOESNT HAVE TO BE SAID THAT BASKETBALL IS A BLACK DOMINATED LEAGUE, IT IS SELF EVIDENT.

BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION IS MAYBE ONE OR A FEW CHANNELS FOR BLACK PEOPLE, ASSUMEDLY MADE AND CONTROLLED BY BLACK PEOPLE FOR BLACK PEOPLE.

ALL THE REST OF TV IS MADE BY WHITE PEOPLE FOR WHITE PEOPLE.

YOUR IGNORANCE IS ABSOLUTE ABSURD. YOU HAVE THE MIND OF A CHILD. IT IS SAD, IT IS DISCOURAGING. IT MAKES ME LOSE HOPE IN HUMANITY. I SHOULDNT HAVE TO TELL YOU THESE THINGS. THEY SHOULD BE OBVIOUS. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: np6888
a reply to: ImaFungi

There are 700 million White people, 1 billion Black people(a lot less if Whites didn't help Blacks with vaccination). Whites have contributed a lot more to civilization than Blacks have. Obviously, not everyone is going to directly contribute, however, because of their gene pool, there's a greater chance of that genius popping out than Blacks do.


How valuable of a contribution to civilization have you made?



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 04:35 PM
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If he says he has white friends we'll know something is up...



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: ImaFungi

originally posted by: 7918465230


Oh, did I hit a nerve Mr. Predictable?

Firstly, yeah, that's what all you black people fall back on when cornered. Like I said, predictable.


I am predictable that in if a racist exist I will think lowly of their intellect. You are not intelligent, you cant be a racist and intelligent. The only thing you can have is 'a good memory'. You have a screen in your mind, with lots of folders on it, you can store data in it, you have programs, you can do things with this information, but as a being with a mind and body you are not intelligent, you just have a good memory...remember that.




Secondly, no, that IQ was taken officially in first grade. I don't care that you obviously don't care. Nobody ever seems to admit to caring. That's two things that are predictable, or three if you count the fact I'd knew you'd have your panties in a twist. (lol)


That is one of the most hilarious things ive ever heard. I am currently in the middle of writing a novel and am totally going to use that, thanks! 'Guy 1 gets into an argument. Guy 2, the person hes arguing with uses his high IQ as leverage as to why he should automatically win the argument. Then guy 2 confidently admits that his high IQ test score was taken in the first grade!' ... omg!, I could not have made that up.

Noone seems to admit to caring...You know nothing about me, all you know of me is that I cared about defending an entire race from the mindless banter of racists on this thread.





LOL, it's not like I haven't been tested since then. I stated that one because it was my first official test, and funnily enough, not only was I not even made aware I was taking an IQ test at the time, but at 142 I probably scored higher than you would on an IQ test now (go ahead and download some cheap application on your phone or something and see if you can beat 142. You might come back and lie about it, but you'll still know, lol). My highest was a few years ago with 165, I said 150 earlier, if I recall, because out of all the tests I've taken, the average is around 150. Again, I'm not bragging, nor am I stating that because I'm more intelligent than you I should therefore win the argument, I was simply stating that it was ironic that you called me chimp brains. It's like the kettle calling the pot black. (oh no, I said black, ergo I must be racist!!!)

What's more, I'm not the one calling me a racist, you are, and you're waving that term around quite frequently, and pointing it towards other people who don't agree with you, or call you out on your bull#. I stated that I thought neither one of the parties in question made racist remarks, I simply said that even if you could somehow see a racist remark (coming from a guy who's mistress in question is a mix of latino and black) in the illegally recorded conversation of Donald Sterling and his mistress/girlfriend, it wouldn't matter anyway considering not only, like I said, it was obtained illegally, but because the conversation was private, and should have stayed private. If anything, the woman was racist, and a gold digger too, with what sounds like major mental problems.


you just have a good memory


Not true. I might have good long term memory, or at least fairly good, my short term memory is average at best. That's not what determines IQ, at least solely. If it was, mine wouldn't be so high.


you cant be a racist and intelligent


Tell that to the Nazis, lol. Hitler never took an IQ test, nor did Heinrich Himmler, but even though I don't condone their actions, it obviously took great intellect to achieve what they did, or at least get as far as they did. Heinrich Himmler was the brain child of the holocaust, and while it's obviously a terrible thing he and the Nazis did, I think it would be ignorant to assume he or Hiter were stupid, simply based on the fact they were quite racist.

During the Nuremberg trials, the surviving, captured high ranking Germans and Nazis (the ones that didn't escape to South America
) were all given IQ tests. The IQ tests were administered by a jew.

Doenitz, Karl: German Admiral. IQ 138
Frank, Hans: General of Nazi occupied Poland. IQ 130
Frick, Wilhelm: Minister of the Interior. IQ 124
Fritzsche, Hans: Head of the Radio Division and part of the propaganda machine. IQ 130
Funk, Walther: Minister of Economics. IQ 124
Goering, Hermann: Reichsmarschall and Luftwaffe Chief; President of Reichstag; Director of "Four Year Plan". IQ 138
Hess, Rudolf: Deputy to the Fuhrer and Nazi Party Leader. IQ 120
Jodl, Alfred: Chief of Operations for the German High Command. IQ 127
Kaltenbrunner, Ernst: Chief of RSHA. IQ 113
Keitel, Wilhelm: Chief of Staff of the German High Command. IQ 129
Neurath, Konstantin von: Minister of Foreign Affairs. IQ 125
Papen, Franz von: Vice Chancellor under Hitler. IQ 134
Raeder, Erich: Commander in Chief of the German Navy. IQ 134
Ribbentrop, Joachim von: Foreign Minister. IQ 129
Rosenberg, Alfred: Chief Nazi Philosopher and Reichminister for the Eastern Occupied Territories. IQ 127
Sauckel, Fritz: Chief of Slave Labor Recruitment. IQ 118
Schacht, Hjalmar: Reichsbank President and Minister of Economics before the War. IQ 143
Schirach, Baldur von: Hitler Youth Leader. IQ 130
Seyss-Inquart, Arthur: Austrian Chancellor, then Reich Commissioner for the Netherlands. IQ 141
Speer, Albert: Hitlers architect, and one of his closest friends. Also Reichminister of Armaments and Munitions. IQ 128
Streicher, Julius: Anti-Semitic Editor of Der Sturmer. IQ 108

I didn't leave anyone out that I know of, and they are all above average, some bordering on genius. If my math is correct, the average IQ was 128.

Like I said, these are just the men that got caught, or surrendered. Also, the Japanese are well known to be intelligent, and they apparently did just as horrible crimes as the Germans. Look up Unit 731.

Oh and btw, I'd like to read this book you claim to be writing, lol. What's it titled?





ALL THE REST OF TV IS MADE BY WHITE PEOPLE FOR WHITE PEOPLE.


You can't possibly be that bright, can you? You have an almost exclusively black channel, and the rest of television ALSO HAS BLACK PEOPLE. Jesus Christ dude, how dense are you? If we made an exclusively white channel, and didn't allow black people on it, there would be OUTRAGE.

If you can't see that, you're an idiot. I can't possibly be breaking an rules by saying that, considering it's only the truth.

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posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: 7918465230

LOL, it's not like I haven't been tested since then. I stated that one because it was my first official test, and funnily enough, not only was I not even made aware I was taking an IQ test at the time, but at 142 I probably scored higher than you would on an IQ test now (go ahead and download some cheap application on your phone or something and see if you can beat 142. You might come back and lie about it, but you'll still know, lol). My highest was a few years ago with 165, I said 150 earlier, if I recall, because out of all the tests I've taken, the average is around 150. Again, I'm not bragging, nor am I stating that because I'm more intelligent than you I should therefore win the argument, I was simply stating that it was ironic that you called me chimp brains. It's like the kettle calling the pot black. (oh no, I said black, ergo I must be racist!!!)

What's more, I'm not the one calling me a racist, you are, and you're waving that term around quite frequently, and pointing it towards other people who don't agree with you, or call you out on your bull#. I stated that I thought neither one of the parties in question made racist remarks, I simply said that even if you could somehow see a racist remark (coming from a guy who's mistress in question is a mix of latino and black) in the illegally recorded conversation of Donald Sterling and his mistress/girlfriend, it wouldn't matter anyway considering not only, like I said, it was obtained illegally, but because the conversation was private, and should have stayed private. If anything, the woman was racist, and a gold digger too, with what sounds like major mental problems.


It doesnt matter if it was obtained legally or illegally. I dont know if you are familiar with reality, but when something occurs it is usually difficult for it to unoccur. It was made public, the public reacted, the racists lose, unless they form a clan and protest and make progress for their cause. I dont care about the girl or him, she even stated after this happened that she was sorry for what happened and sad the NBA took the action they did. This is about no place in multiethnic sports/business for bigotry. That racist does not deserve to be a part of the culture and sport and business of the NBA because of his views. If they werent made public, this would all be different. Once they were made public, the right thing occurred, which was to get him and his views outta there.




Not true. I might have good long term memory, or at least fairly good, my short term memory is average at best. That's not what determines IQ, at least solely. If it was, mine wouldn't be so high.


I dont care.




Tell that to the Nazis, lol. Hitler never took an IQ test, nor did Heinrich Himmler, but even though I don't condone their actions, it obviously took great intellect to achieve what they did, or at least get as far as they did. Heinrich Himmler was the brain child of the holocaust, and while it's obviously a terrible thing he and the Nazis did, I think it would be ignorant to assume he or Hiter were stupid, simply based on the fact they were quite racist.


To me there is a difference between 'Intelligence' and memorizing information and then using that information to carry out ones will, the latter may be referred to as smart or clever, to me intelligence includes general civility and morals. Intelligence would include an understanding of the varying circumstances surrounding the history of race, and the fact that a conscious being such as a human does not choose what they will be born as, so to not ostracize a black man just because they are black because they did not choose this, and you did not choose your whiteness, so a racists intelligent supposition is that all black people should kill themselves, and that if they were born black they would have killed themselves. This is a great 'intellectual' strategy for warring tribes of monkeys in the jungle, if you could convince your mortal enemies to kill themselves because you want to be the winners, but in a modern civil society, one whose members have worked for a hundred+ years, making economic and social progress in the lives of the previously enslaved minorities, it seems the one who, or the minority, who holds the previously mentioned racial views of the warring monkey is nothing but that, an unevolved creature, in short, a bully.





Oh and btw, I'd like to read this book you claim to be writing, lol. What's it titled?


Your obsession with IQ tests are silly, im guessing you are a programmer of some kind, computer science, maybe mechanical engineer...great. I hope you play video games.

If you are still on this site by the time it is published I will send you a copy, I cant mention the title as it may be some time before it is finished and the title I think is very clever and I dont want to allow it into the aether, if you will.

Also I dont know if you have had time to venture into many other threads, but I did find it funny how you claim to be intelligent yet the only thread on this entire site you felt the pertinence to take part in is the one in which you say "white people good, black people bad".



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: ImaFungi

Your obsession with IQ tests are silly, im guessing you are a programmer of some kind, computer science, maybe mechanical engineer...great. I hope you play video games.


You started the IQ thing when you called me chimp brains, remember? Why do you hope I play video games? I generally don't anymore, but I do occasionally (once or twice a month) get on with my friends and play some CoD.

And no, that's not what I do for a living. Guess again.


If you are still on this site by the time it is published I will send you a copy, I cant mention the title as it may be some time before it is finished and the title I think is very clever and I dont want to allow it into the aether, if you will.


LOL, sure.



Also I dont know if you have had time to venture into many other threads, but I did find it funny how you claim to be intelligent yet the only thread on this entire site you felt the pertinence to take part in is the one in which you say "white people good, black people bad".


I've been here longer than you have kiddo. I've ventured into many other threads. I'll leave it at that, and keep you guessing. What's more, never once did I say "white people good, black people bad", but I appreciate you misinterpreting just about everything I've posted, and I also appreciate you putting words into my mouth.

If anything, out of anyone who's posts I've read in this thread, I'd say you were the racist, or at least, the most racist out of all of us. You also seem to be incapable of grasping the simplest of concepts, which suggests a very low intellect. You said you're an author, correct? Is that the only thing you do for a living? Do you have any other works? If not, what's your real job?
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posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 08:46 PM
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69 - 91




Ibelieve the correct expresion is,, "in your face"


edit on 4/30/2014 by BobAthome because: they better keep the lead, this time. !



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: 7918465230

You started the IQ thing when you called me chimp brains, remember? Why do you hope I play video games? I generally don't anymore, but I do occasionally (once or twice a month) get on with my friends and play some CoD.

And no, that's not what I do for a living. Guess again.


I stated the IQ in passing as a jest of disrespect towards you, you are the one who became obsessed with proving you know of people who have historically tested high, and that you yourself are smarter then everyone else because in 1st grade, and another time you got a high score on a test. Post a pic of your sticker or I dont believe you. Maybe you work with lumber, a welder, construction, you own a BBQ store, you own a gun store, you are a professional gun, you own a pet shop, you drive a truck, you are a professional american, you own a gas station, you are border patrol, you own a hunting ranch, you own a demolition derby, you are a nascar vender, you own a trailer park, you work for the NSA, you make software,





LOL, sure.


You wouldnt like it anyway. Its not the story of a midwestern marine who is washed up onto an oil rig after a top secret mission blowing up terrorists, where he then spends several months working around the clock on the rig, playing cards and drinking good gin and smoking good cigars, and taking a boat out to the nearby 3rd world city on the weekends where he frequents his 18 year old girlfriend, and they go to the casino together a con tourists, and then after a few months he finally asks her to marry him,and so they move back to the states, and it turns out she was a Russian spy the whole time, and it turns out he was a double spy, working for the nazis, and so then he kills her and becomes a vigilante known as 'Blackman' by the papers,for his manifesto and subsequent behavior of wondering the country hiding in the dark and one by one killing all the black people, unfortunately this is not the book im writing.





I've been here longer than you have kiddo. I've ventured into many other threads. I'll leave it at that, and keep you guessing. What's more, never once did I say "white people good, black people bad", but I appreciate you misinterpreting just about everything I've posted, and I also appreciate you putting words into my mouth.


This thread was made out of a knee jerk reaction. If you are upset a rich and powerful white man owner of an NBA team got ostracized by the nation and fans of the league for being racist, I dont care, but I think and believe that is racist of you...or something.

I agree it was unfortunate events for the guy, and none of this would have happened if what happened didnt happen, but what happened happened, and what happened because of it was the right thing that happened. What would you have liked every person in the nation that disagreed with you to have done instead, just ignored what he said? It was beyond that, if what was done wasnt done every player in the NBA agreed that they would no longer play, as a form of protest until something was done. There is no room for people who think like that in the world of sports, and there should be no room for people who think like that in a modern civilized world.




You said you're an author, correct? Is that the only thing you do for a living? Do you have any other works? If not, what's your real job?


I dont have a real job, I dont have to work at all as I come from a very historical family. I do have a lot of investments and partly own some businesses however. My interests include music (I am a composer), writing poetry and longer works, philosophy, the arts in general; film, photography, painting, and psychology, politics.




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