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originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: MaigretI was asking earlier something about a claim that you made in your OP that:
Ask someone else then. You're pulling your ideas out of nowhere! Trolling?
you can't ‘dress yourself up’ for the occasion.
I was asking if the parable doesn't apply of the man who shows up at the wedding banquet without his wedding party clothes.
Your reply was that Revelation says they will be given to you.
I don't think that is an explanation for the meaning of the parable and that you are just deflecting, having no real support for your original claim other than some sort of cult ideology of feel good as you go to your destruction.
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: MaigretThat's about as good an argument as saying, "If I am lying, may God strike me down!".
If I was being smug or proud, God would slap me down hard and fast! If this is all you're reading out of my posts, you're the one with the problem.
I think that you have been enticed by a cult trap that uses a feeling of superiority to lure in their prey, with the promise of special knowledge that only the most intelligent people can get, the "real name of God and the Son".
originally posted by: deadeyedick
Started out great but the part where you deny the son and the holy spirit is bogus. FAITH is the methoed to open the communication channels with the creator. First you need faith to believe is something not proven to most. It is as simple as that. Picture your faith as a ladder that extends further the more energy you put into it. The trinity is real and many other lesser trinity's guide our lives too. there are even negitive trinity's. It truely is doing a disservice to yourself to deny this.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: Maigret
The LORD God of the Old Testament and God the Father of the New Testament are one and the same -
I highly doubt that. The 'god' of the Old Testament looks to mostly be human made up, mean, blood thirsty and craven. The God of the New Testament is mercy and love. They look like two totally different 'gods' to me.
God has a Covenant with mankind of the Ten Commandments.
ATS Thread - 10 Commandments Doctrine of Men
Some information for you on where the 10 Commandments really came from.
There are festival Sabbaths to be observed in the holy days, as well as the weekly Sabbath every Saturday.
Lemme' guess .... 7th Day Adventist, right? Ya'll think that if people have as their main day of worship any day other than Saturday, then they are going to hell because they aren't following 'God's Law'. Right?
Yeah ... good luck with that. I think you are in for a surprise when you die and see that the real God isn't a legalistic mess like the Old Testament makes Him look like, and you'll really be in for a surprise when you see that a whole lotta' people who you thought were lost actually 'made it' to Heaven.
No, the context was ". . . as His crops matured and ripened until now, for His harvest."
My original point was about receiving God as you are.
There is plenty of cult nonsense on YouTube, so you don't necessarily have to attend meetings at a church or something, just accept their brain washing.
What cult? Your assumptions are BS.
And who did you learn the "information" from?
. . . I am merely sharing unique information . . .
How do get from that (above), to this? (below)
. . . this is a transliteration of the Greek, which is 'Iesous', which comes from the Hebrew 'Yeshua'.
Are you admitting that there is no actual logical step, but "know" because . .
. . . the name of His Son is NOT Jesus!
Can to describe how this happened?
. . . God said to me . . .
Is it significant that it is always "Jesus"?
Going by the number of times the name of the Son is mentioned in the Bible, I'd say it's a mighty big deal!
The name 'Jesus' is mentioned 983 times in the King James Version of the Bible.
wiki answers
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: MaigretHow do get from that (above), to this? (below)
. . . this is a transliteration of the Greek, which is 'Iesous', which comes from the Hebrew 'Yeshua'.Are you admitting that there is no actual logical step, but "know" because . .
. . . the name of His Son is NOT Jesus!Can to describe how this happened?
. . . God said to me . . .Is it significant that it is always "Jesus"?
Going by the number of times the name of the Son is mentioned in the Bible, I'd say it's a mighty big deal!
The name 'Jesus' is mentioned 983 times in the King James Version of the Bible.
wiki answers
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: MaigretThere is plenty of cult nonsense on YouTube, so you don't necessarily have to attend meetings at a church or something, just accept their brain washing.
What cult? Your assumptions are BS.And who did you learn the "information" from?
. . . I am merely sharing unique information . . .
This stuff comes from the 'sacred name' movement.
I have some information that comes from a book,
You Shall Have No Other Gods: Israelite Religion in the Light of Hebrew Inscriptions (Harvard Semitic Studies), by Jeffrey H. Tigay,
that there are over 500 known Yahwistic names. I counted them all from the lists in the appendix at one time.
My point being that in ancient Palestine it was common practice to use names that included God's name, so it isn't something that you need today to be so reverent about, as if you had to pronounce it according to some sort of "sacred" dialect.
The Jews in Jesus' time were not so scrupulous so there isn't any need to now, unless it is to get a feeling that people who use normal English are somehow inferior and are not as "holy" as yourself.
originally posted by: Egoismyname
Well, how to say... if you search to contact the creator, you only slow the process, as your attention is aimed at anything but the present moment, where the creator lays hidden. Stop playing around, take a deep breath and feel the surroundings. It is Him, I can assure you.
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: MaigretNo, the context was ". . . as His crops matured and ripened until now, for His harvest."
My original point was about receiving God as you are.
So it sounds like Judgment Day, and how you can not disguise what and who you are and what you have done.
Or is to you "harvest" really something else, like something completely different from its normal meaning?
This is just absolute rubbish.
Oddly, the exact history of the word God is unknown. The word God is a relatively new European invention, which was never used in any of the ancient Judaeo-Christian scripture manuscripts that were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek or Latin.
Jesus was "obtuse", why do you think that they killed him?
Even your understanding of what he was saying makes him sound confused and / or obtuse.
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: MaigretThis is just absolute rubbish.
Oddly, the exact history of the word God is unknown. The word God is a relatively new European invention, which was never used in any of the ancient Judaeo-Christian scripture manuscripts that were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek or Latin.
Hello! English did not exist back in ancient times.
So, What!
Hebrew has elohim,
Greek has Theos,
Latin has Dios.
"God" is just the newer, English version that probably comes from Norse.
Big deal!
So now you can't say "God"!?
And this is what God "told" you?
You do realize that your mind easily makes noise and voices that you could swear was from "outside".
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: MaigretJesus was "obtuse", why do you think that they killed him?
Even your understanding of what he was saying makes him sound confused and / or obtuse.
Saying Yeshua and Yahweh doesn't make you understand scripture better, it just comes off as very pretentious to me.
Jehovah's Witnesses' rap can be rankling with their "I'm better than you" attitude.
Don't be a Pharisee with a mere show of false piety.
Do you really think that at the Pearly Gates that you will be quizzed on your Hebrew pronunciation?
If I am somehow too stupid to "get it", who else out there do you think does?
But you're so intent on dismissing my case that you're making yourself look confused and thus incoherent; and sadly you don't even realise it.
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: MaigretIf I am somehow too stupid to "get it", who else out there do you think does?
But you're so intent on dismissing my case that you're making yourself look confused and thus incoherent; and sadly you don't even realise it.
If you want anyone to get it, whatever your point is, may I suggest that you at least make an attempt by starting out by pointing out where I am getting it wrong.
I don't think that you know whether I am trying to "make contact" with God or not.
Obviously, you have no desire to make personal contact with God Himself, otherwise you'd be paying more attention to what I'm saying, but maybe it's because you don't believe you or I can.